User talk:Horton11

I'll be a good king :D and if I do bad you can always lead a coup against me. Nathaniel Scribner 01:46, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

The guy with the most power is the PM. The king is powerless to do anything, except symbolically declare war and make peace. HORTON11 02:30, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

That power needs to be in the hands of the people, we should wait to promote some one of that status so highly at this moment, untill more people can join. Nathaniel Scribner 04:40, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, you still want me to fill in the postion for Prime Minister? Nathaniel Scribner 21:13, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Sure. You will need to make a character though. HORTON11

We really need to get some better infoboxs. Nathaniel Scribner 21:30, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Seeing as this is currently a dictatorship, should we explain how we got into power and what not?Nathaniel Scribner 21:49, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

We'll just say there were elections, the last presidential one in 2008 and the last PM one in 2009. HORTON11 21:57, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

The two papers are very nice :D BoredMatt 21:14, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Moving to Carrington (sorta)
This looks like a promising place =D I'm gonna join this, if that's cool with you. BoredMatt 21:59, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

I think I'll do just that. BoredMatt 22:09, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

I'll just need to make the Parish pages. HORTON11 22:12, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Could we fix the parishes by population, seeing as both of the largests cities in the nation only get one rep, is kinda odd. Nathaniel Scribner 22:14, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

We could award more populous districts 2 or 3reps. HORTON11 22:16, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Seems right, would you like me to work on our military defence page, 'The Carrington Armed Forces' 'Military Defence Force of Carrington' ? Nathaniel Scribner 22:19, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking of Calling it the Royal Guard. It would be about 1000 persons. THey would use the fancy parade uniforms, but be autfitted with modern combat weapons in case of actual fighting. HORTON11 22:46, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

I'd love to handle the equipment and such, if that's fine with you guys. BoredMatt 23:31, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Also, a bit of a random question, but how big is Carrington, relatively? BoredMatt 23:32, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, you can handle it. And, the country is about as big as Menorca island in Spain. HORTON11 00:35, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

I see, thank you. BoredMatt 00:53, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'll be more active on the site for the next few days, I'll start helping out alot more. Nathaniel Scribner 01:09, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Sure no problem. We do need to work on the Parishes and cities, so if you could help with that.

He is currently stuck in the middle of Peace Island, in fear of going to jail over being in the Brigade. Nathaniel Scribner 02:47, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Well, the Royal Guard could plan a daring operation to free him. HORTON11 02:50, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

This could very well hurt our relations with Lovia..Zackary Perry 02:51, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

If he were a citizen of Carrington Island, we could have asked the Lovian government to extradite him. HORTON11 02:53, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Prehaps send him a letter, (On his page) that we can give him a themperay visa card to get into the nation, and we can work somthing out with the government. Zackary Perry 02:55, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, we can do that. HORTON11 02:56, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

I'll wait till a high up offical responds. Zackary Perry 03:04, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thats OK. HORTON11 03:27, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes but still, he has to go to court..for basicly being part of a gun group 'hunters' and he is truely kinda poor, and doesen't want to go a prision..we might have some problems getting him out, both his father and mother are German. Zackary Perry 03:32, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Also, should I sign for him coming over? Zackary Perry 03:33, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yws, you can sign. It would make ti more official. HORTON11 03:35, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Mr. Steiner would like to leave the nation. We do need to set a plan to get him if the government does not want to comply. Zackary Perry 03:40, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Since his father is a Brunanter from Potsdam, that makes him a Brunanter too. That should allow him free entrance ino Brunant. As he is not under arrest, he should freely be able to exit the country. If that fails, then we should go to the International Court in the Hague. IF all else fails, his majesty may allow the use of his plane to free Steiner. HORTON11

His father is from Carrington, but at the time of the birth of Steiner was in Germany. His father was at the time on a Carrington Passport. Zackary Perry 03:47, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

He HAS to go to court, I don't think they will allow him to get a ticket. Hes currently living in a small cottage in the back roads of Peace Island. Zackary Perry 03:49, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

If the father was born here, Friedrich is automatically a citizen. If the father is naturalized, then Steiner can apply for citizenship, and will most likely get it. HORTON11 03:50, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

If he can make it to a major city, then he can get picked up by plane or by a Naval ship. HORTON11 03:51, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Plane prehaps, but by ship would take awhile and alot of trouble. We should wait for a statement form the Lovian Government, and then we can work on from there. Zackary Perry 03:54, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

While we wait, would you like to discuss some things over the policy in Carrington, such as Abortion- guns rights..same sex marriage? Zackary Perry 04:00, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Sure.

Should we hold our first session for congress, prehaps over the issue of Abortion? Zackary Perry 04:09, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Sure we can do that. HORTON11 04:11, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Do you know how to make a fourm? Zackary Perry 04:13, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Go to Forum:Congress: its already made. HORTON11 04:14, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

I'm writing up the bill. Zackary Perry 04:18, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Zoning
Just an idea I had. Red is mainly urban/residential, yellow is mainly intensive agriculture, yellow/green is mixed undeveloped land and small farms, green is mainly undeveloped land and a few small farms. It is by no means complete or accurate, it's just what I think it should be.

Its a great map. Its just some areas, mainly the intensive agriculture area in Cape Cross conflicts with that of the national park there. But for the most part its pretty accurate. HORTON11 03:03, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Could you prehaps get more templates on the site? Zackary Perry 05:06, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good
This wikia is turning out nice! Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.PCP 23:41, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

You should join. Now we even have neghborhood maps. HORTON11 23:59, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Dutch names
You were asking Pierius about Dutch names earlier. You might find this website useful -. :) --Semyon 16:56, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!


 * The generator that can beat me has yet to be discovered, Semyon! :) Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 19:52, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Of course! :D --Semyon 17:18, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Trial
We need more time. I asked the Judge for it and got no response. Maybe you, as one of our main lawyers, could also ask him. Thanks in advance, Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 15:29, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure, i'll do that. HORTON11  15:32, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks man! Really appreciate this. If I'll lose the trial I'll probably quite wikia all together anyways; it's consuming to much time. :) Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 16:21, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, we really need you as Lovian PM. If not, Lovian politics will remain boring and bland. But, you're welcome to come and live here if you want. You could live in an old house or take up one of the many castles. HORTON11  16:27, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I was trying to spice thing up a little with the Brigade and everything. To bad some people are just plain old boring! :D Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 16:35, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * You could just move the brigade here and make it a specialized unit of the Royal Guard. HORTON11  16:40, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Good Job
This wikia is so amazing! I hope to biuld it up and everything with you. It's looking great!Marcus Villanova Music is Life.Lean Forward.PCP 13:43, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Here we have more history than Lovia (and actual wars) so it will be more interesting. HORTON11 16:14, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree! Can I have a place in Congress? --Semyon 16:34, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes. Just make a character and choose one of the Parishes. HORTON11  18:00, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we could all have a character who represents a major family or clan and form some sort a "League of Noblemen". :D Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 19:32, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes. My character may not have a noble name or anything, but his mother is the granddaughter of King Pieter II and has the family name Van Draak. But my family is politically important. Me and my wife have been president twice, since 1990. HORTON11  19:37, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * You and your wife aswell? Sounds like a pretty damn powerful couple! I like the way the nobity still has something to say here. Although not as much as in Neol, of which I am the Vice Premier. Wanna drop by sometime? :) Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 19:42, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Film
I just saw the most, it is for some epic film Echocho wrote in Libertas. Maybe we could bring it here? :) Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 09:44, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Sure we can bring it. HORTON11 12:43, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Exhibition match
How about a friendly game between FC Skeend and one of the clubs in Brunant, say St. Marks Koningstad? :) Echo cho 08:59, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, when do you want to play it? HORTON11 12:32, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * We can play it next sunday OR we could have had it played a week ago (or two even), no? Rock_guitarist.png Echo cho 16:09, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sunday would be good. HORTON11  16:16, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, then we'll hold Skeend vs Koningstad on sunday, do you have a stadium in which we could play it?
 * And could there have been a game between Skeend and another Carrington team say about a month ago? :D (you can tell I'm real eager :P) Rock_guitarist.png Echo cho 16:20, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure. Maybe with Carrington FC. BTW would you like to have a team here in Brunant to compete in the 2011 AFC Tournament? HORTON11  16:24, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure,
 * 1) I propose to hold Koningstad vs Skeend in Koningstadion
 * 2) I propose to have held Skeend vs Carrington in Vondeegelstadion on February 22.
 * 3) I'll take care of a team in Brunant, as a favor to you :) because my main focus really is Wikistad. Rock_guitarist.png Echo cho 16:38, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure, thats OK. HORTON11  16:47, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * The results are (fiiiiinally) in: Skeend vs Carrington FC = 1 - 1 | Goals: 74' (Fernández) vs 62' (Anderson) ;) Rock_guitarist.png Echo cho 17:40, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Carrington's not that good. SO its surprising they didn't lose to Skeend. HORTON11  17:44, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm still looking for a decent tool to get those scores. All I use is a random number generator (it's like throwing dice, really). Then again, everything's possible in soccer/sports. :) Rock_guitarist.png Echo cho 17:47, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes. I saw a match were an English club was down 4-0 and managed to tie it up in the last minutes. HORTON11  17:51, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

I was hoping to get a Prime Minister house, prehaps with a historical meaning? Zackary Perry 06:06, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

It would probably be an old house in Koningstad Centrum. Possibly one owned by Carrington? HORTON11 13:45, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Laywer
You are needed... RIGHT NOW. the trial is over, a verdict is reached - a six month block! I have 24 hours, then the show is over. Unless you (and Marcus) come up with some brilliant plan, of course. Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 15:45, March 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * What! so soon. This is outrageous. I'll see what I can do. HORTON11  15:53, March 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * You go do that, although I fear it will be to no avail. Also check
 * Well, I see my plea has been to no avail. A shame, yes, a suprise? Not really. I will now be forced to leave the site and Lovia, and I seriously doubt I will ever return. I will not disband the Donia I-government, however, as I plan to finish my term, albeit in name only. You yourself will be replaced by Mr. Washington - take a look at the Second Chamber: I will replace Mr. Jefferson with a neutral and more expierenced Judge, please vote PRO. Tomorrow at this time, I'll be blocked for six months, in all likelihood. After that I will leave all of wikia forever. I am sorry, there is no other way. Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 16:19, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * You cannot go now. This is a crucial moment, and we will need to fight back. I have given Mr. Jefferson a strong worded speech and feel that the case was totally political in nature. If we can get a new judge, we should hope he may give you an official pardon and reinstate you to your post as PM. HORTON11  16:42, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * There is only possibility - if you can get 50% of Congress to support the Appointment of Aesopos BEFORE tomorrow afternoon. But that is an almost impossible task. The most likely result is simply this - that I'll be banished from Lovian soil tomorrow and never return to wikia. I will also inform Echocho of this attrocity: with my departure, I fear Brunant and Libertas might die and Lovia will fall into anarchy. Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 17:05, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Do not give up hope. But there is one more thing we can use. There is NO PROOF WHATSOVERER that any brigade member had a firearm. Even Mr. Steiner photos with weapons were in Germany and not in Lovia. HORTON11  17:12, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Surely, isn't it just your character, the count, that is sentenced to jail for six months. Rock_guitarist.png Echo cho 17:16, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * No, Echocho, sadly it isn't. The character is coupled to the account directly. I will now lose my Citizen Rights, and I'll be banished from Lovian soil for half a year, after which I will not return. I played the game and I lost. Now I will face the consequences, and Lovia will use one of it's most active and prominent members to date. Only a miracle can save me now, although Horton does his absolute best, of that I'm sure. I fear, however, it will not be enough, from whatever angle you might look at this. Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 17:22, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Couldn't a vote in congress overturn the decision? Or the PM (you) by a special resolution? I cannot believe that Lovians would let Jefferson do such a thing. I know there are political motives behind this, but I am starting to feel this is personal as well. HORTON11  20:50, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know actually... what I do know is that I already discussed appointing a new Supreme Court Judge long before this trial and the ultimate verdict. Jefferson must have read the discussion(s) and knew, on the 14th of February already, that he was to be replaced: evidence can be seen here. This could have affected his verdict, and the harshness of it. Notice that while I get six months, Latin and Steiner only receive two weeks each. Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 21:02, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, Jefferson does hve connections to the LAP, and the accuser (Galahad) is in that party. I feel that the situation was not objective enough to ensure a fair trial. HORTON11  21:06, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * You need to convince others of this. Would you be willing to continue to do so, and fight against this decision even after my departure? Because tomorrow I will be banned, it is almost a certainty. Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 21:12, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Interwiki
I've had someone arrange an interwiki between Wikistad/Wikination and this wiki :). On Wikistad/Wikination you can simply use car:something something to link pages (in the side menu) and something something to insert links in the article! Echo cho 17:16, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll use them when needed. HORTON11 20:28, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * And thank you for your contribution on Wikistad! I'll make an article about Brunant/Carrington on that wiki, based on what you've written here ;). Rock_guitarist.png Echo cho 22:21, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. that would be good. I'll make one about Libertas here then. HORTON11  22:46, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Support
I am very glad I can at least count on some support from Medvedev. He's a good man. If that six months block will still be given, then it is all over. In that case, I wish you good luck with your trial against Jefferson. I'd advice you to also contact Marcus and some others (maybe even Medvedev). In case this will be my last day on Lovia, could you watch over my articles and the Donia clan for me? I'd be most obliged, Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 15:01, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

If that were to hapen (hopefully not), then I would look over the Donia Clan. Maybe even make them a home here. HORTON11 15:26, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Second chamber
We must make sure my proposal passes the Second Chamber - Aesopos is a neutral and expierenced guy, a very friendly one also. Only if Jefferson is replaced he can be put to trial. So that justice can be done. Not revenge, no, justice. That sonofabitsch gotta know his place... Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 10:09, March 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes I do think Aesopos can be a good judge. As far as I know, he has not expressd any political stances. HORTON11  14:52, March 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * I am glad you agree. You understand, too, that it is of absolutely vital importance that the proposal passes? If it does not, you will have to wait another year before Jefferson can be replaced, because only the Secretary of Justice (me) can appoint a new Supreme Court Judge. Could you convince others to support the proposal aswell? That'd be neat. Ygo "the Brigade" Donia (Lovian PM) 16:28, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

St. Marks Koningstad - FC Skeend
A very exciting game, down to the last quarter!
 * German forward Neuer scored the games first goal only ten minutes after the start! 0 - 1
 * 10 minutes later (at 22') Steenbeek got the equalizer. 1 - 1
 * 5 minutes before the first half was over, Uuthuuskens gave Skeend an advantage: 1 - 2
 * In the beginning of the second half, Neuer kept Koningstads hopes up high with his second goal of the game: 2 - 2!
 * But none other than midfielder Tummers made the decisive goal 76 minutes in the game: FC Skeend won with 2 - 3!
 * What a game! ;) Rock_guitarist.png Echo cho 18:00, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes quite exciting. The 2011 AFC Tournament is starting and the teams are getting prepared for the tournament, so maybe we should set up other matches. HORTON11  18:06, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Question
I would like to make a fashion company. Can my company make the dress for Lindsay Mansel. Addyrand

Sure. Once you make the company we can say it made her dress. HORTON11 02:16, March 22, 2011 (UTC) (and sign with 4 ~ things)

Just some questions:

1. Can I join the sdp?

2. what do you call people from Burnant?

3. Can my character (Adriana Rand) date Prince Karl? Addyrand 02:26, March 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sure you can join the SDP, people here are called Brunanters and your character can date Prince Karl. HORTON11  12:51, March 23, 2011 (UTC).

Trial
How about putting Jefferson to trial? It was your idea and I must say I am very much in favour of it. Have you given it any thought? Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 16:24, March 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes. Jefferson broke the law, so he should be tried for it. I'll have to build up a case first though. HORTON11  16:27, March 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * You'll have plenty of time to do so - Jefferson has yet to be replaced officially. Also, try to make sure you can count on the support of others. Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 16:35, March 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Something very interesting just accured... please take a look at this... brings many, many opportunities. Ygo &quot;the Brigade&quot; Donia (Lovian PM) 17:40, March 23, 2011 (UTC)