User talk:Horton11

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2013-14 First League schedule
Using the Teamopolis round-robin generator, I've created a schedule for the 2013-14 First League. What do you think? 77topaz (talk) 23:10, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

It looks great. Let's use that one then. HORTON11 : •  12:49, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

Should I do the same thing for a bball schedule? Ethandabomb (talk) 21:42, May 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sure, if you want to have an active season. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 05:46, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

is there any way to create new templates? Ethandabomb (talk) 01:07, May 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, you just add a page called Template:whatever (fill in the blank) and that's a template.   HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 05:46, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

Hi horton, I don't know why I'm getting this problem, but when I type in the url of the image, a little 1 with a link appears and takes me to the image. I tried to get it to show the whole thing, and it's still showing the link on the brunantstad eagles page. Tips, suggestion? Thanks Ethandabomb (talk) 22:10, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

Parquet Palace
Hi I was wondering if i could get the Cardinals Parquet Palace considered as a National Monument. Also, the Palace needs a map of the museum and i'm not very good with that kind of thing. Thanks!Ethandabomb (talk) 00:58, May 31, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll see what I can do about the map. And talk to MMunson about monuments; he's in charge, I believe. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 18:53, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Horton, is there going to be a Brunant Supercup this year? 77topaz (talk) 07:17, June 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I was thinking sometime in early August, kinda like a season opener. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 18:51, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

When exactly are we going to hold the IWO Games? 77topaz (talk) 20:26, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Palm Island
Hi Horton. I'm creating my own micronation wiki and was wondering that when it got started that you could help out. Thanks! Ethandabomb (talk) 22:27, June 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * My advice: don't do it. Most newer wikinations like Strasland, Tagog and even established ones like Harvian Islands end up inactive, so my suggestion is just to use that time to work on active and established ones. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 15:15, June 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * I've already started it and have a fe editors that will be helping out. Ethandabomb (talk) 18:45, June 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * If you stay dedicated despite all problems it should turn out ok. Btw do you have a link? I'd like to check it out. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 19:20, June 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, here it is. wikipalm.wikia.com/wiki/Wikipalm_Wiki. It is the early stages so don't expect much. I could really use some help. Ethandabomb (talk) 01:59, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * it looks nice. I would change the name of the founder to a more Spanish name, as well as the independence dae in line with the resst of Spanish America. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 07:02, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * All right sounds good! If you want to you can make any edits feel free beacause I could really use some         help. Thanks! Ethandabomb (talk) 13:32, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure. Once you have a more concrete idea of how you want it I might pop in and help. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:37, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure. Once you have a more concrete idea of how you want it I might pop in and help. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:37, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Horton, there is one thing on my wiki that I could use some help on. I need help on the money, the Isla Pieza. I saw the notes you made for this and other wikis and I just thought i should mention it. Thanks. Ethandabomb (talk) 19:58, June 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Let me see. I've pretty much exhausted all my banknote ideas, so I'll see if I can come up with something. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 20:12, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, just message me if you come up with something Ethandabomb (talk) 20:28, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hi Horton, just curious, what program do you use to make your money? Thanks! Ethandabomb (talk) 13:04, June 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * MS paint. Photoshop would be better but don't have it. And I can work miracles with paint, but it takes a ton of time and patience. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:09, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I suck at those. :P Ethandabomb (talk) 17:37, June 20, 2013 (UTC) Yeah he did the Strasland money and it's really good.MMunson-talk ( Vote SLP ) 01:07, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Can you let Mickael Lindgren transfer to Standard FC and Ivan Mendeita to a Brunant team.MMunson-talk ( Vote SLP ) 04:35, June 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sure. But you should say Lindgren joined the club this season. As for Mendieta, you could add him to the Basket Niesburg squad. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 05:58, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay.MMunson-talk ( Vote SLP )

Anyhting yet on those bank notes??? Ethandabomb (talk) 15:40, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Well I wouldn't know what/who to add on them. It's better you work out the history and figures first. HORTON11 : •  15:45, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

If GUSC were to buy Jose Bandier, would Davi Salas then go to Dortmund SFC or St. Marks, and what would then happen to Johan van Grunbeck? 77topaz (talk) 00:04, June 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Van Grunbeck would go to GUSC and Salas would return to St. Marks. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 05:28, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Is there still going to be voting for the AFC awards? If not, I propose Antonio Florente for the Best Player award, Stanislaus Simon for the Best Keeper award and Sialo Miorna for the Young Player award. 77topaz (talk) 03:36, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

We might need to remove some of the non-essential awards and just focus on those three. HORTON11 : •  13:50, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Do you want me to add the results of the Austria and Southern Arc Islands matches to the Total Football talk page as well? 77topaz (talk) 20:07, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Sure. I'll add in the reports today. HORTON11 : •  14:34, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

Come on chat, please.
Wabba The I (talk) 16:01, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

Ok. HORTON11 : •  16:02, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

I added the two reports to the Total Football talk page. 77topaz (talk) 21:25, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

Wabba Cross
I, Wabba The I; user of wikinations, can say that you, George the Greek; user of wikinations, are awarded with the Wabba Cross,the highest decoration on the wikinations. I give you this medal today as the second user in history. So, you are awarded with the Wabba Cross since 13 June, 2013. Wabba The I (talk) 18:51, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

Your assistance is needed in Lovia good friend
With TimeMaster insisting on undoing my changes and believing my idea to be bad, I really could use your help in defending the ideas and changes I came up with. See the talk page of the Prince Alexander article, the Princess Sylvia article and the pub. For you to agree with me is pretty important. I do not want to get in some sort of edit war over this. Thanks in advance, The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 07:40, July 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well TM isn't gonna budge on the Princess Sylvia page, so we should let him keep that as is as long as he doesn't remove the Prince Alex things.  HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 13:13, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

I think we shouldn't give up on the IWO Games. I already wrote a Freedom Press article about delays in order to explain the lags in uploading of results. I'd like to help out with results, medals etcetera, but how exactly would I go about doing that? 77topaz (talk) 19:39, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

^Hey, Horton, did you see this? 77topaz (talk) 07:39, July 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes. For the results we'd just have to make them up, but for non-team sports I really don't know how we should go abput. Maybe we could ask for Oos' assistance on this, as he proposed much of this, or TIme, who was the drving force behind athletics and swimming. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:30, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * For any sports, creating the medal tables/rankings wouldn't be too hard; however, for non-team sports, I guess it is the actual results that are putting you off? 77topaz (talk) 16:57, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's the thing. Like how do you determine who wins in the 100m dash? Unlike football where we know which nations are stronger, all the individual sportas are a big ?? And I wouldn't know whow we would go about determining times, distances for athletics and other sports. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:08, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, by the "actual results" I was meaning just the times and distances etc. I guess that sporters which have their own pages or, for some sports, are even actually mentioned on their nation's list would do better (this is what Wabba seems to have done with the diving competitions, though I'm not sure). E.g. the Lovian players would do well in the fencing, and the Togar Family well in the throwing sports, etc. 77topaz (talk) 19:35, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * ^Hey, Horton, did you see this section as well? :P 77topaz (talk) 07:20, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well I guess we can go with that, but I still don't knw how the actual results would play out. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:52, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Pseudo-randomly, like the results for the team competitions? 77topaz (talk) 03:45, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well we would need to base it on real swimming/running result times, unlike in football where any score is (at least theoretically) possible. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 13:55, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * I guess we could create the medal tables/rankings first if you aren't sure about the actual result values. For some sports, like diving (which Wabba has already worked on) and gymnastics, round-rankings would suffice. On another point, I think it'd be a good idea to finalise the Bandier deal. 77topaz (talk) 20:14, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * (Are you on a wikibreak? :o ) Oh, also, when do you think the 2013 Brunant Supercup and the first rounds of the 2013-14 Johan II Cup should be? 77topaz (talk) 05:58, August 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * A bit, plus travel and no internet. So let's get Brunant back up to action. The Supercup can be retroactively held for last weekend, and for the league matches we can follow the Portuguese schedule, as it's the same number of matches. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 01:37, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Welcome back! Oh, by the way (I wrote this before but you probably missed it because of your travel), I think we should finalise the Bandier deal with GUSC. 77topaz (talk) 03:55, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Which was that, I don't seem to remember. Right now I'm starting on the league matchdays, and we should start working on the 2013-14 cup soon. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 03:58, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * We were thinking of transferring Jose Bandier from Dortmund to GUSC, and transferring Davi Salas and Johan van Grunbeck back to St. Marks and GUSC respectively at the same time. The league matchdays won't start for another two weeks, I thought? The first preliminary round of the cup would probably have happened by now, though. I'd be glad to help out with both. I also think it'd be a good idea to think about the Second League: would Standard FC or Sint-Anders Furie have lost in the relegation playoffs, or maybe the league would even have been expanded to twelve teams with the playoff teams (Oceana Grijzestad (because of Oos's involvement) and Sterren Koningstad, maybe?). 77topaz (talk) 04:11, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, let's do the deal. If you can help me out with the cup, it would be great. The league will start two weekends from now and the supercup would be next sunday. Well let's promote one team from the lower leagues. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 04:24, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, do you want me to edit all the corresponding pages (GUSC, Dortmund, St. Marks, the transfers page)? I don't think this season's cup has a page yet, does it? Which team(s) would you be thinking to promote or relegate? 77topaz (talk) 04:52, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, that would be great. I'll add a cup page as well. Well we can promote Oceana Grijzestad and relegate Sint-Anders, what do you think? HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 12:22, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * I added the page. We can use the same 24 teams from the parish leagues (but with new matchups. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:57, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * @Promotion: That seems okay, though Standard FC did of course do worse than Sint-Anders in the previous season. What should the fee be for Bandier? 77topaz (talk) 20:22, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well in the playoff even the higher-positioned Standard could lose, as it's just one game. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 20:26, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Huh? Standard FC finished bottom (not Sint-Anders) in the 2012-13 Second League. Also, I thought the playoffs would be two-legged ties? 77topaz (talk) 03:54, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my mistake. The better-placed team can still lose, but I don't really mind who gets demoted. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 12:20, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Who should be the replacement for Bandier in Dortmund's squad? 77topaz (talk) 20:12, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * We could create a foreign player to fill the spot, perhaps an Italian? HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 20:23, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I see you already created one. :P Do you think we should re-exchange (return) Davi Salas and Johan van Grunbeck? 77topaz (talk) 04:33, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yep, I guess so. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 11:31, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Would that require an edit to the Transfers page, or not? 77topaz (talk) 03:57, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nope. cause those were just loans. The players return to their clubs at the end of the season. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 13:16, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Would Salas go to SMK's main squad or Alexandria Koningstad? And, you wrote on GUSC's page that their only previous season in the 1. Liga had been 2010-11 - wouldn't they have been promoted at the end of the 1996-97 Second League as well? 77topaz (talk) 03:51, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well no, cause GUSC finished fourth and only the top two get promoted and demoted. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 13:11, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but Helmond RSC and Taurus Niesburg got disqualified that season, leaving GUSC as the second-highest team. :P 77topaz (talk) 21:44, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah sorry, let me fix that. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 23:50, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Would the "four times in twenty years" thing on Total Football's website still be true, then? 77topaz (talk) 02:02, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * It woul be six now. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 12:11, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Two of the meetings would've been cup matches? 77topaz (talk) 20:14, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, a home and away match. First and 2nd division teams do meat in the third round and after. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 00:32, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * When exactly do you think the first matches of this year's Johan II Cup would've been held, and what would the matchups be (the page is still largely empty)? And the Supercup would've been held by now, right? I think we talked about this before, but, do you want me to help you with either of them and (or) the league itself? 77topaz (talk) 05:15, August 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * For now if you could help me with the cup that would be great. The first cup rounds would follow the same format as previous season's. Using the same parish team but different matches. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 16:08, August 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll think about that. Do you need help with the Supercup match? That was held last weekend IC, right? 77topaz (talk) 20:16, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

Banknotes
Hey can you teach me or at least give me a few hints and tips about how you personally make the banknotes and coins you have? They look amazing and I just found your comment in Bretherlands on the Brethish Pund page. Gallo Kunarian TALK 00:04, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Well mostly I just modify real design and combine images to create real notes, but other times they are more from scratch. It's easier for mt to do than explain. HORTON11 : •  05:17, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

I understand however can you give me a basic step by step from scratch run through, doesn't have to be complex just the basic idea. Gallo Kunarian TALK 11:47, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Well it really does depend on the tye of not, if you want to go from scratch or base it on a real one. If I make one based on a real note I just remove all the writing and stuff, add a new picture and then new text to go with it. And if you're going to add personalities to the notes, you can try and find one with a guy most similar to the one you're wanting. HORTON11 : •  14:58, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

I think I'm going to try and do some work from scratch, how do you work when you do that? Gallo Kunarian TALK 15:04, August 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well I just find images and put them together, kinda like a collage. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 16:59, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Any particular places you use for resources? Gallo Kunarian TALK 17:00, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well just google images. Depending on the theme I want for the note the style may differ.  HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:15, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help. :) Gallo Kunarian TALK 17:44, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

UL
Are you for this? It seemed like you wanted the merger, but your MOTCS and Sylvanian Councilors aren't for it. Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:01, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

http://nation.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Second_Chamber Vote for two very important pieces of legislation in the second chamber. Theey would allow taxation, please vote pro! Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:09, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Hey.
Hey, I'm back to my full activeness in Brunant. I noticed the Willemstad kit, it looks pretty good but could you possibly remove the sponsor, so the kit has no sponsor, the sponsor makes the kit look like it has a random blob placed in the middle of it. Happy65 16:27, August 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok. Well you put Stadmarket as the sponsor, so they should be on the shirt. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 20:21, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

Princess Lucy-Anne's son
Hi Horton, do you mind if Lucy-Anne's illegitimate son is the Brunanter ambassador to Spain? Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 16:54, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

If he is Brunanter, it's no problem. HORTON11 : •  17:17, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, he is a Brunanter citizen and he's lived in Brunant his whole life. In fact, the only Lovian thing about him is the fact that is mother is Lovian Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 17:27, September 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well then it's no problem. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:55, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Great! Do tell me though if you want me to change his history so it doesn't interfere as much with your royal family Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 17:57, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Chat
Chat please. Thanks mate. Happy65 17:42, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Horton, are you going to update Total Football for the second matchday? And, do you want me to find the score for the Supercup? 77topaz (talk) 10:51, September 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sure. I'll do that, you do the score and meanwhile I'll set up the cup page with preliminary rounds etc, and groups. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 15:20, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * For the Supercup: Mediterranean FC 3 (Danne: '22, Florente: '51, Robertson: '80) vs Arabian FC 2 (Nietsmeyer: '34, Olsen: '65) 77topaz (talk) 22:45, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Go on chat.
I know this is basically spamming your talk page of Chat messages over the last 6 months, but hey. Happy65 18:24, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Horton, can you take a look at this? It was made by a new user and it seems to be messing with real-life history significantly. 77topaz (talk) 01:33, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and these two pages were created by that user too. 77topaz (talk) 06:43, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Elections
If you want regular elections, the spanish based constitution and the seperately elected prime-minister allows for that.

If you decide to have realistic terms, I'd suggest terms of four years for all positions: House of Reps, Senate and Prem. Here's an example of a election timetable:
 * 2013 - House of Reps
 * 2014 - First half of Senate
 * 2015 - Prime minister
 * 2016 - Second half of Senate
 * 2017 - House of Reps
 * 2018 - First half of Senate
 * 2019 - Prime minister
 * 2020 - Second half of Senate

If you want to have more frequent elections that might allow new users to become more involved quickly but not too quickly, I'd suggest terms of two years for all positions. Here's another example:
 * 2013, early - House of Reps
 * 2013, late - First half of Senate
 * 2014, early - Prime minister
 * 2014, late - Second half of Senate
 * 2015, early - House of Reps
 * 2015, late - First half of Senate
 * 2016, early - Prime minister
 * 2016, late - Second half of Senate

Wondering what you're thinking, both allow for an active politics but one, maybe more active and better for newcomers although both require people to stick around and contribute. Gallo Kunarian TALK 15:28, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * That's the thing, we don't get too many new users and even in Lovia they don't tend to come around too often. A few comments on your idea: the PM should be chosen as the leader of the government and not elected (as in most parliaments) and both house/senate elections should be done together. My proposal for these elections would be that:


 * 1) users vote for the house, Lovia-style
 * 2) Create their congresspeople in a list and divide the seats between their major party and minor ones
 * 3) The percentge of house seats is used to calculate the number of senate seats
 * 4) HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 15:52, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * You still need to attract new users, it's vital to do that, and elections at different times help to both get new users involved and stop them from invading your entire political system at once and then disappearing. Okay, so you want the PM chosen but I'd advise against doing the House/Senate elections together and doing them exactly in the manner you have been doing them. Firstly from an IC viewpoint, having elections at different times means that there's more stability politically and it's easier bureaucratically, secondly you'd be ignoring the cultural influences and making the Senate a pointless exercise by essentially having it like a smaller house of representatives. Here's a proposal that doesn't compromise the cultural influences and other points I've raised but is more like what you want:
 * (this isn't really part of the electoral system but it is) Users are registered on an electoral register (that contains their names and primary address), this happens way before the elections and provisions are made for it in the constitution.
 * Users vote for the house, with three votes like the current system (your choice if you want to review this), with seats distributed via either D'hondt (favouring larger parties), Sainte-Lague (favouring smaller parties) or by the Swedish Sainte-Lague system (favouring smaller parties but against really minor parties). Create congress people and divide their seats up to whomever.
 * Users vote for the senate, voting for candidates in order of preference for party lists (from one to however many parties are standing), then we assign the votes accordingly to each parish (to keep in line with what you are doing) and give people extra influence in the parish where their primary home is. Then the party lists get assigned seats based on the results and senate seats are distributed equally amongst those on the list.
 * This system provides not only for a more easily managed system long term, but also gives the cultural and differing elections that will make Brunant seem influenced by Spain and also make Brunant a more interesting political place. Gallo Kunarian TALK 16:15, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * BTW I've simply written this up so that everything is understandable, mimicking your simplified way of putting it, it's like:
 * Users vote for the house, seats get distributed proportionally and people distribute and make congresspeople
 * Users vote for the senate, seats get awarded (to normally the larger parties, like your current system) and people distribute and make senators
 * So don't be fooled into thinking it's more complex. Gallo Kunarian TALK 16:20, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * That's a nice plan. Maybe the D'hondt system is best, as it is the most-understood method for vote distribution. You have my support to implement this, but do you think we should work with the election we had in April? To do so we would first need to:
 * Get users to divide their seats among the parties they want in order to see which are largest
 * Form a government coalition (for IC reasons, as all parties will have a role in the government)
 * Hold senate elections as you propose (we could even ride the election-fever wave in Lovia and bring people here)

Then again, many of the people who participated in the April elections are inactive. We could hold new ones in order to have more active congresspeople, but we would need to attract other users to the site. What do you think? HORTON11 : •  16:31, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm glad we're moving forwards. :) D'hondt it shall be then! (but that'll need to be put in as a general law not as part of the constitution as constitutions are more of a pointer than a detailed thing, except concerning the practice of government).
 * And maybe we should work with the April election, however it all depends on what kind of terming we are giving the legislative bodies, if we're doing two years then sure work with them for a little while longer then have the election next year for a new two year term and do the senate elections now for the new two year term. The way that'll work then will mean that you have one election per year, providing stability but also allowing for new users to have a go. Concerning activity, maybe we should even hold elections for the House at the same time as the new senate elections just to weed out the inactives and have that House around for a year then re-elect it for a new two year term.
 * Also I think riding election fever is a good idea, but I need to know what you think about the two year term before we continue. Gallo Kunarian TALK 16:48, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * The two years plan is good, so go with it. I'm personally more inclined to have both house and senate elections at the same time, and if you want to weed out inactives we could hold a midterm one in between. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:03, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, two years. Well I'd advise for separate elections, but it's your decision. Gallo Kunarian TALK 17:13, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I meant just holding them in the same time period, as you do in Sylvania with your state house and senate vote. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:17, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I understand, what I meant was having the senate elections one year and the house elections another, so that you have one election per year rather than two elections in one year then no elections the next year which might cause problems for new users if they arrive right after the big elections, they've got to wait ages until the next one. However as I say it's your choice, I'm just making the argument. Gallo Kunarian TALK 19:49, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I see. Well we could hold midterm elections in between as an alternative. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 20:09, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Mid-terms always just seem to be a case of making the elections every year but not calling it that. It'd depend what you mean, I think though of course we should add a clause in that allows for congress to have an election if too many people are inactive (well technically it can do that anyway, the Monarch (controlled by you I assume) can do it but the (currently drafted) constitution also states elections must then be held within three months so don't worry you won't be able to go crazy with that rule if you want the modern constitution to keep it ;) ). Gallo Kunarian TALK 20:26, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, lets scrap midterms. As our congress is in essence a parliament of sorts we do have no-confidence votes and the such. So, who not make an unofficial rule that governments should fall approx. every year or so. Elections would then be held to allow new users an opportunity in government and reduce the number of inactives. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 20:37, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well I had an idea, that would fit more in with British influence with a bit of random ideas busting. Treat every year as a session (a legislative year) of Congress, at the start of each session the government has to be 'verified' by a vote of all members. If a majority are in favour of the current government then no need for elections, if not then elections. Note: This would only affect the house as I think we should leave senate with its users.
 * BTW you do know that the law voting system under the currently drafted constitution acts against inactives, don't you? Gallo Kunarian TALK 21:10, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * We can do the British-style verification, it seems like the better solution. And I had no idea of the law against inactive. I'll have to take a look. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 21:17, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, glad to see. Yeah, in the one I'm currently drawing up there's a rule that stops them from hindering legislative progress, I'll explain it tomorrow, I need to sleep now. Gallo Kunarian TALK 21:23, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok. I should get to bed too. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 21:26, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

Politics
Hello! I was thinking of creating a character here in Brunant and maybe becoming active in politics sometime in the near future. So my question, how can I get into politics here in Brunant? Thank you :) Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 19:04, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well you can join one of the Political parties here and if you want you could become a parish governor, in charge of local affairs. We may hold a congressional election later on, depending on what me and kunarian end up discussing with the constitution being made. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 19:11, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Request for help
Hi Horton. I approved your request, and I'm here to help.

For the background, if you find either one large image (to be split into two halves) or two separate images (to be displayed on either side of the background) that you'd like to be used, please link me to them.

As for the main page, obviously I'll implement column tags so that the content properly "wraps around" the ad. As for the content of the page, did you want to keep everything that's currently there and just make it look better? For the headers, I could use a custom font that's similar to the one on the wiki's logo to give a more consistent appearance. Let me know any details you have in mind, and I'll get started soon. JoePlay http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/joeplayground/images/a/a5/WikiaStaff2.png (talk)  22:51, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll try and find nice enough pictures for the background for you to use. As for the main page, we could add the font if you can find it, that'd be great. I'll probably change the color on the main page to match the blue used on the top links header. HORTON11 : •  13:33, October 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * I've created Template:Heading using a Google font similar to the logo's font, and using the shade of blue used on the navigation menu. To use the template to create a heading, simply enter and replace Title with the title of the section. Here's an example:


 * JoePlay http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/joeplayground/images/a/a5/WikiaStaff2.png (talk)  16:37, October 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * I went ahead with setting up the column tags on the main page, so take a look when you get a chance. Feel free to rearrange sections as needed. JoePlay http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/joeplayground/images/a/a5/WikiaStaff2.png (talk)  16:52, October 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Great, that really is nice. I might just add a create an article creator box to go above the "About Brunant" section. And one more question, could the main page have a more transparent background compared to other pages if we added an image? The only similar thing I could do was using this:

, but the image does not remain fixed. HORTON11 : •  17:19, October 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * Using some CSS, I was able to make that be the background image of the main page. The image that's being used (direct link) is set to 20% opacity instead of 30%, as the 30% version was making the text a bit hard to read. JoePlay http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/joeplayground/images/a/a5/WikiaStaff2.png (talk)  20:52, October 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * The opacity for an image being used as a background image must be done manually with image editing software, such as Photoshop (paid) or GIMP (free), before uploading the image.  doesn't work because it's not a valid CSS property. If you want to use the Donderstad image, I uploaded a 20% opacity version of it here. JoePlay http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/joeplayground/images/a/a5/WikiaStaff2.png  (talk)  16:12, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

Hello
Hello there! I am actually thinking of creating my one wikination, so I need some "practise". Is there any needed page you want me to create??Jōji (talk) 19:13, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hi and welcome. Feel free to work on anything you like, from history to politics and culture. If you'd like something more specific to do, it would be great if you could help us out with our national parks (they can be found here: Department of Parks and Monuments). HORTON11 : •  19:54, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I was wondering if maybe you could help me with my banknotes for Kobidar. Thanks Ethandabomb (talk) 21:22, October 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * Don't know what that is, sorry. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 21:25, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, are you still going to update the Total Football website? 77topaz (talk) 21:29, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Hm, don't the articles get dates anymore? And will you add something about Sunday's matches once they're done? 77topaz (talk) 02:08, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Did they get dates beofre? We;; I don't even add dates for the Cape TImes, so it shouldn't be a problem. HORTON11 : •  15:37, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Are you going to make a Total Football article about the latest Johan II Cup matchday? 77topaz (talk) 02:54, October 31, 2013 (UTC)


 * I might just wait for the knockout rounds to make cup reports, though I'm thinking of making a sort of preview at the end of the group stage. And I was also thinking, since some of those reports are really bland, perhaps I might go with adding matchday previews on occasion. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:47, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you going to add an article for this (league) matchday? 77topaz (talk) 07:55, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Music
Horton, I'm going to start work on the benefit CD. Could it be released the Monday after the event? Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 22:21, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

"Kyto" worked. :P 77topaz (talk) 11:00, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Also. 77topaz (talk) 11:12, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

@ Marcel- Great, Monday would be fine.

@Topaz- I'll take a look. HORTON11 : •  15:56, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Football!
Hi Horton, how do you make the football team logos for the Brunanter and Kemburger leagues? I was planning on making some for the Prasian First Division and I was wondering how I could do so :) Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 17:41, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Some are just based on real ones which I modified and others are just my creations using images from google. It's all made on paint. HORTON11 : •  17:44, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you :) Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 17:46, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Okay. I wanted to ask that to but It is still dificult to have some good logos. Wabba The I (talk) 18:02, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

yes, you either need a good program like photoshop or be skilled in operating paint, which I am. HORTON11 : •  18:05, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

4kant blocked Frijoles just for saying that Ndengu is alive. :P 77topaz (talk) 08:18, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

I did a new calculation for the WNFA rankings at their website. Can you check it please? Wabba The I (talk) 12:28, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Do you think this would be a good portrait photo of Ndengu (for an eventual article about him or OEaEfT or something like that)? (You'd have to edit the lapel flag, though) 77topaz (talk) 04:47, November 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * It's good. I can add the little flag if you want too. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:59, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks! (Though, the perspective on the flag does look a little strange) 77topaz (talk) 19:11, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a different angle. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 19:17, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's what makes it look slightly strange, though it might not be noticeable zoomed-out. 77topaz (talk) 20:02, November 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * You have to take a look on the WNFA wikia because I did my calculations on the rankings. Please check it. Wabba The I (talk) 19:52, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not yet, Wabba, we still need more discussion and it would be implemented for next year. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 19:57, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

4kant found out it was Frijoles who posted the letter. Also, I'm not completely sure what Happy is trying to do here. 77topaz (talk) 20:07, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Something else to mention to Wikia is how 4kant often edits the "constitution" (site results) immediately to "justify" actions (blocking, locking etc.) he has just committed or is about to commit. 77topaz (talk) 23:00, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hi
Hi Horton, I saw that there is now a Traspes embassy in Koningstad, so can I build a Prasian one please? Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 14:14, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

I think he built it on his own. Both traspes and Prasia should be developed more before we go ahead and do that. HORTON11 : •  15:18, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

So, do you have anything revolved around the 18th century you want me to do? Anything about Dutch guys living in the 18th century who had shady backgrounds and awesome futures is my thing!

Suite6677 (talk) 19:13, December 7, 2013 (UTC)That Newbie Who Knows Nothing

Notice
(In case you don't see it at Lovia) I will be without Internet access from roughly the 10th to 15th December and will be unable to respond to messages etc. during this period. 77topaz (talk) 19:07, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Ok. HORTON11 : •  19:09, December 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * I return! 77topaz (talk) 02:33, December 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, on another note: the Tagog situation seems to be fading from the public eye, and we haven't even done the speeches for OEaEfT (though 4kant et al haven't released statements or done anything controversial lately; there haven't been any recent edits at the Tagog or Chvarqvia wikis as far as I can see). 77topaz (talk) 07:53, December 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's faded completely, though Tagog has gon inactive at all. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 16:27, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

Hi Horton. Long time no see. I was just meaning to tell you that I may occasionally drop in and do some editing if I have some free time. Thanks,

Ethandabomb (talk) 01:39, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

Great. We could always use more help for our basketball and other things. HORTON11 : •  16:42, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I saw your football uniforms and was wondering what resource you used, and if there was any sort for basketball. Ethandabomb (talk) 22:39, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

I just used paint and used shirt pictures to base them on. If you want I could make some. A few of the logos might need to be changed to be better looking. HORTON11 : •  16:09, December 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hey
Hey, still online? Happy65 20:01, January 1, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, Horton, I have an idea that could make for a bunch of articles. It's about a Brunanter footballer during the 1980's or so, who plays very well and becomes famous, but makes a lot of enemies with gambling syndicates, fellow players and rival fans, and is assassinated/killed because of those factors. 77topaz (talk) 00:59, January 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * This could be an interesting idea. Especially if he was involved in illegal gambling/activities. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 20:23, January 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. He may have taken bribes from mob-related gambling groups, but then played normally, angering the gambling syndicates that way. 77topaz (talk) 20:49, January 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * So, what do you think? 77topaz (talk) 20:18, January 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * I created the article Hendrikstad FC as the first part of this "group". 77topaz (talk) 09:35, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

Oh, and, also, something seems to have become a little muddled-up in the transition of seasons in SM. All the stats from Season 13 are there, but Season 14 seems to have gone completely "missing". 77topaz (talk) 04:29, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

It's fixed now, I think. HORTON11 : •  20:23, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to be for me. For example, the player "career statistics" pages all skip from Season 13 to Season 15. 77topaz (talk) 20:59, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

I noticed, it seems highly suspect. HORTON11 : •  14:28, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

I can see my Season 13 schedule, but the Season 14 one just shows as being completely blank. Does something like that usually happen in season transitions? 77topaz (talk) 20:18, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

The SM situation seems to have changed again. Now I can only see seasons 14 & 15, but nothing older. 77topaz (talk) 09:34, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

That really is strange. HORTON11 : •  14:22, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

Hey Horton, I know this may sound really greedy or really dumb in general, but I'm making a page about this guy named Joshua Glasgow. And in the article, he is one of the main starters of this war called the 2nd Brunanter War of Brunant. And once I'm with Glasgow's independent article, would you mind giving me a hand in creating the battles and some tiny bits of information of the war while I give all the extremely important information? And don't worry, I'll hook you up with the article to get introduced to the character and the setting :).

Suite6677 (talk) 01:57, January 24, 2014 (UTC)That Guy Who Knows Nothing

Also, I'm TERRIBLE at making the battles. I can make some names for the war, but that's about it, really.

You know what? Forget what I just said.

Suite6677 (talk) 01:59, January 24, 2014 (UTC)TGWNW

Well if you're interested on working on a war it's best not to create a new one and just work with the ones we already have. HORTON11 : •  14:57, January 24, 2014 (UTC)

Marriages and royal babies
Have I missed anything? And, shouldn't we be doing some updating? ;) King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 14:12, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

Well it's nearly a year after the birth of their first child, so maybe a second one on the way would be good. HORTON11 : •  14:18, January 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * I say it's about bloody time! ;) And in Lovia we just had little Prince Arthur. As you can see in the pub! ;) King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 14:51, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

Hey
Welcome back, hope you're enjoying life in Spain. Since it's deadline day, I hope you don't mind coming to chat? Thanks. Happy65 16:04, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

The International Team
Battery concentrate on signing international players, and have the likes of Stefan El-Zein and Martin Visser.

Chat
Hey Horton,

Please come on chat. Feel free to invite Wabba :P

Thanks. Happy65 20:47, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

Hey
Someone uploaded some images based around a political party named the "Belize Green Party" or something. As these are not related to Brunant, or other wikinations, I'd like to suggest them for deletion. Special:Log/upload (those four pictures at the top) are the ones. Happy65 13:09, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Done. HORTON11 : •  14:07, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Horton,

Are you on chat? I'm on atm, but I might leave soon. Peter Wostor (user) 15:04, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

I believe you are not done. There's still a guy from Belize at the top, who's the current leader of the party. I doubt it is for use of this wiki, and is yet to be used on a page. Peter Wostor (user) 15:06, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Chat works
Chat works. Peter Wostor (user) 20:02, March 24, 2014 (UTC)

come back
Come back Horton? Peter Wostor (user) 20:21, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

come back
Hey. Please come back. Peter Wostor (user) 17:08, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

Come back
HORTON! Peter Wostor (user) 18:55, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

chat
Come please. Peter Wostor (user) 17:11, April 14, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks.  Nick  Talk  17:26, April 14, 2014 (UTC)

Hey Horton
I think it's best for Brunant to soon opt out of the IWO. It may not be the best move yet, because new recruits are likely to see and join Brunant if it's on the list in Lovia.  Nick  Talk  10:20, April 15, 2014 (UTC)

Hey
Lovia is dying out so fast (5 days without an edit!). Brunant is becoming the largest wikination, so I'd like to congratulate you on that.  Nick  Talk  11:26, April 17, 2014 (UTC)

Hey.
Happy Easter :)  Nick  Talk  20:16, April 20, 2014 (UTC)

Same to you. HORTON11 : •  20:18, April 20, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, there?
Hey. Wondering if you're on. Come on chat if you are. Thanks. :)  Nick  Talk  13:05, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I'm back. HORTON11 : •  13:44, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Hey. I came back from vacation, and managed an edit, however I've been quite busy.  Nick  Talk  06:51, June 3, 2014 (UTC)

Ok. I haven't gone on vacation yet cause we might just stay at home. HORTON11 : •  13:40, June 3, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, I'm back.

That Newbie Who Knows Nothing (talk) 05:59, June 25, 2014 (UTC)TNWKN

Great, hopefully you'll continue activity here. HORTON11 : •  13:45, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

chat
Come to chat, please!  Nick  Talk  18:19, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

Hey
I'll be on chat for a while, but I'm going to watch The Tour de France in my home county :)  Nick  Talk  10:04, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Ok. HORTON11 : •  12:15, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

please...
come to chat. :)  Nick  Talk  20:14, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Congratulations on reaching 2,000 pages! Brunant is now ten times the size of Prasia and Kemburg :) Frijoles333 TALK 17:37, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. With 174 more we'll have matched Libertas. HORTON11 : •  17:50, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, come to the Althistory chat because we are discussing interesting things. Traspes (talk) 03:58, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

I've an interesting idea which I'd like your opinion on. It involves a club in the Parish Leagues, founded relatively recently (less than a decade ago) - currently I'm thinking Caroline Park FC - which has gotten a partnership with a larger foreign club - currently I'm thinking A.C. Ciconia in Juliana, which would help with activity in Juliana as well - allowing them to get players loaned from the larger club and also possibly to sign some of the free agents in the Brunanter league, which would strengthen the club's performances significantly. What do you think? 77topaz (talk) 03:37, October 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * That'd be alright. I like that idea. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 13:05, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, that's good. Hopefully, I'll be able to work on it in the next few days. 77topaz (talk) 19:49, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Oh, and also: Horton, could you post the fixtures at 2014-15 First League/Matches? I'd be more able to help with the results that way. 77topaz (talk) 03:54, October 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'll have to find them but I'll post them up soon. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 13:05, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks in advance! 77topaz (talk) 19:49, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * http://www.teamopolis.com/tools/round-robin/XTD13RDMXHAW is the same as what you used for the schedule, isn't it? I could upload the Round 10 fixtures from there (though the two Grijzestad teams might have to be moved apart for stadium reasons, right?). BTW, I accidentally misspelled Charlestown as Charleston in that schedule, but I think it should work. 77topaz (talk) 21:17, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Today, Arabian managed a remarkable 8-2 victory over FC Drenthe! Here's a little editorial piece about the result, possibly useful for one of the football magazines/pages, from pundit David de Wit:

At the beginning of the season, many critics, including Total Football, said that Arabian FC's squad was aging and they probably would not do as well as last season - a gross oversimplification, as today's result has proven.

''It is true, of course, that several of Arabian's key players are aging - Mark Olsen, Alfred Kiessling and Hamad Abdullah are 33, 34 and 36 years old respectively. But what critics seem to have overlooked is that there is a rising younger generation at Arabian as well, including Ibrahim Ghrabi, Johan Nietsmeyer, Amer Abdelkadir and Mustapha Mokrani, none of whom are more than 25 years old. These players each have formidable talent (and together contributed seven of the eight goals in today's 8-2 win over FC Drenthe), but have seemingly been overlooked and underestimated even by Arabian's coach Juan Elvira. For many of the preceding First League matches this season, he's fielded rather conservative line-ups, emphasizing the older players and giving the aforementioned four less opportunities, and correspondingly, Arabian FC has struggled in the league, sitting in 13th place after Matchday 9. But today, Elvira fielded a different line-up, possibly inspired by the team's form in the Johan II Cup, and today's result is a strong deviation from the previous trend, showing, finally, a symbiosis of this younger generation (who may have been at the club for more than a year now each, but have yet to hit their prime), a proof that Arabian FC will not fade away with the generation of Olsen and Kiessling. I even dare to say that if Elvira keeps these players in the line-up and they continue to develop, Arabian FC could easily make up for their bad start to the season and even do better than they did last season. Sure, circumstances were in their favour today - after Hans Ottman's goal, when Arabian were leading 3-2, Godmund Huber had to be substituted off because of a minor injury and Dario Montes was red-carded - but this is still one of the largest margins of victory we've had in the First League in years and Arabian's performance is certainly worth praise.''

A final note - it is perhaps slightly unfortunate that only one of the aforementioned four young talents, Johan Nietsmeyer, is eligible to play for the Red Dragons, but after today's result, you can be sure that Willem Bergher will have his eyes on him.

77topaz (talk) 05:22, October 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * That's a very good piece. If you like you can add it to Total Football. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 12:46, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I might do that, although the piece is in a different "style" than the average Total Football article, I suppose. 77topaz (talk) 22:07, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well a few articles are more interesting than the average and it'd give a nice balance to the usual bland matchday report. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:25, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, that makes sense. I'll add it to Total Football. 77topaz (talk) 22:29, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Another pundit article, based on this matchday's results:

''Last week, Arabian FC made a superior performance against FC Drenthe, winning by a remarkable 8-2 score. They failed to repeat that this Saturday, losing 0-3 at home to Dortmund SFC. One likely factor is that the team's manager, Juan Elvira, fielded a rather different line-up against Dortmund SFC than against FC Drenthe.''

''In my article about last week's 8-2 match, I mentioned a quartet of particularly well-performing players, a rising new generation for Arabian - Ghrabi, Nietsmeyer, Abdelkadir and Mokrani. However, of these, only Johan Nietsmeyer was amongst the starters in Saturday's match against Dortmund.''

(This is unfinished because of an interruption. I'll have to continue working on it.)

77topaz (talk) 04:47, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

That sounds good. So you'll be the Arabian expert for TF then? HORTON11 : •  20:30, November 4, 2014 (UTC)

Well, I was going to write a bit about Charlestown's 5-1 loss in that article too, but I ran out of time before. 77topaz (talk) 01:48, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

I'll continue the article about this weekend:

''Fielding a lot of older players like Alfred Kiessling, Mark Olsen, Herman Dankert and Facundo Eroza, Arabian FC made only a middling performance up front, unable to do much with the chances they did get; and Hamad Abdullah and Joe Manley made multiple errors in defence, allowing Dortmund to get enough shots on goal for three goals, despite some heroic saves from Piers Gertman. There are only two players from Arabian who I could say played well in the match, Johan Nietsmeyer and Hussein El Tahri, but their efforts alone weren't enough, especially considering the high-quality opposition.''

''On Dortmund's side, Robin Nylund took the cake, grabbing two goals, while Ibra El-Zein was somewhat subdued. Overall, their performance was convincing, if not as spectacular as, for example, Arabian was last week. Though, here, they clearly played better than the messy Arabian team.''

''Juan Elvira has so far refused to speak to press about Saturday's match, despite many fans being critical about his tactical decisions. However, Daniel Matheson, one of his assistant coaches, has said: "Because of Dortmund being a very skillful team, and also one of the fans' local rivals, we decided to field a more experienced line-up rather than an experimental one. We thought that taking any risks against Dortmund wouldn't go down well with the fans, and wouldn't necessarily help on the field against a team like Dortmund."''

''Another team left licking their wounds this weekend is Charlestown FC, who lost 5-1 to Grijzestad Strijders. Charlestown FC haven't done well in general this season, but with Bradley Solomon having received a minor injury and Olivier Kuyt absent due to illness, they were forced to field substitutes up front. Without Charlestown's forwards making chances, Grijzestad were able to get a lot of possession, and the pressure fell on Charlestown's defence - who haven't been able to live up to former player Hans Oudberghen, and today cracked under pressure. Grijzestad's performance wasn't actually very good - they made multiple mistakes and missed chances of their own - but Charlestown's players, especially Henry Harlow, Hubert House and Daniel Arbena, made so many errors that Grijzestad got a full five goals.''

''Charlestown FC should definitely be worried. One just has to imagine what the scoreline could have been had Grijzestad's attack been stronger, like Dortmund SFC or the Arabian line-up that won 8-2 last week. And, even though Solomon and Kuyt will likely return next week, their over-reliance on their forwards is something Charlestown will need to work on if they want to avoid relegation.''

77topaz (talk) 02:32, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

Could I add the above article to Total Football? Also, I think I'll write an article about the latest Leaders League matchday too, soon. 77topaz (talk) 23:44, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead. HORTON11 : •  14:17, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

Chat
Maybe can you come to the Spanish Althistory chat?? http://es.althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Especial:Chat. Traspes - Dianna Bartol

I've added a branch to the Sheraldin family tree for Martin Samuel Sheraldin's wife, which extends up to Francesca Hale (1855-1925), who could be the daughter of Anthony Bellebard or John Singer. 77topaz (talk) 23:52, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

Ok, great. HORTON11 : •  14:10, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

The trees are now linked! 77topaz (talk) 09:11, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

I sent you a message on Geni, Horton. Also, did you see the message I left for you here? 77topaz (talk) 05:41, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

I'll have to see. HORTON11 : •  15:11, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

I'm Back (for now)
Hey. I know I haven't been on for over year, but if it's ok with you I'd like to contribute now and then when I can (school and work get in the way of doing anything like this regularly). I'll try to stay more consistent than I have been in the past.

-Matt Anderson (talk) 17:50, December 16, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, that would be great! I was away on vacation but I'm back now. HORTON11 : •  15:08, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

Where have you been Horton? Please come to chat!  Nick  Talk  16:12, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Boscher
I don't see why not. -- 16:36, January 8, 2015 (UTC)

Ok. HORTON11 : •  16:37, January 8, 2015 (UTC)

Hello
I'm back!!! Traspes - Dianna Bartol 00:07, January 9, 2015 (UTC)

Hey, welcome back. Hopefully you'll stick around. HORTON11 : •  14:10, January 9, 2015 (UTC)

...
Just when I need to chat most. uhhhh Is there any other way we can chat?  Nick  Talk  20:16, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

No idea. HORTON11 : •  20:18, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

What happens when you join chat?  Nick  Talk  20:19, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

Come on soccer manager and we can chat.  Nick  Talk  20:20, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

Or try this http://www.e-chat.co/room/37729. HORTON11 : •  20:23, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

Nah. Typed the link into virus protection, and a threat is detected :(  Nick  Talk  20:27, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
 Nick  Talk  14:54, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Mr Switzerland
I persuaded Germany not to invade you.  Nick  Talk  13:00, February 15, 2015 (UTC)

Just a reminder...
Hey, I just want to let you know that I've completely overhauled the Markoos Willem article, and I just want your general opinion on the article.

Thanks,

That Newbie Who Knows Nothing (talk) 22:54, February 15, 2015 (UTC)The "Suite"

Sure, it does seem better. I'd suggest formatting it to look more like wikipedia articles. You like telling stories with your characters but here we go for the simply facts though admittedly more boring encyclopedic format. HORTON11 : •  14:22, February 16, 2015 (UTC)

After crowds of up to 30,000 attended the FC Willemstad game following rumours the club would be relocated, Peter Wostor has decided to not sell the club to the Emir of Neghul.  Nick  Talk  10:00, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

That seems good. Should w then get rid of the St. Robbe pages, or you still moving the club? HORTON11 : •  14:02, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

Well we can say it was a prospective football club. I'm not moving the club.  Nick  Talk  14:30, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

No need then. A simple mention of it on the Willemstad page will be fine. HORTON11 : •  14:34, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

chat
Chat on Brunant. ] Happy65  Talk  Contributions  18:52, February 27, 2015 (UTC)

Hey Horton, sorry for my absence lately, I've been on holiday and busy IRL (the semester starts next week), so I haven't been able to get to Wikia much. 77topaz (talk) 07:50, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

No problem. It'd be good if you got back to editing. There are many new things here. HORTON11 : •  15:01, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

A simple request...
Hey, Horton. I've always been feeling like making a new character in Brunant, but I don't really know where to start. Do you have any ideas brewing that you wouldn't mind me making into a character and possibly an event? Just wondering.

That Newbie Who Knows Nothing (talk) 02:15, March 14, 2015 (UTC) Suite

Hello,

I'm not Horton but I feel I can provide some useful advice. Firstly, I'd think of a name (dutch or english), and then his age. After that, I'd think of his occupation (is he a politician, businessperson, sports player, investor or more). If you choose politician, feel free to join the Green Party, businessperson make a business, sports player, once again feel free to join FC Willemstad or a basketball team, rugby team, cricket team and so on. Just be creative and make sure you choose your occupation carefully. ] Happy65   Talk   Contributions  13:17, March 14, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Come to chat asap. ] Happy65   Talk   Contributions  15:15, March 18, 2015 (UTC)

Localities map
The map you made seems to be missing Kirkenberg in Drenthe Parish. 77topaz (talk) 08:39, March 30, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing. Will fix. 13:08, March 30, 2015 (UTC)

The Drenthe Parish pages defines a "Kirkenberg region" as the western part of the parish. So shouldn't Kirkenberg be in that part of the parish? ;) 77topaz (talk) 19:37, March 30, 2015 (UTC)


 * Must've read that map wrong. Will frix HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:14, March 31, 2015 (UTC)

Also, there's a marker near Geitstand in Cape Cross Parish that has no label. 77topaz (talk) 22:08, March 30, 2015 (UTC)


 * Done nad done. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:14, March 31, 2015 (UTC)

The word "Kirkenberg" on the map looks somewhat different to the words around it on the map, it seems to be aliased/compressed differently. 77topaz (talk) 19:30, March 31, 2015 (UTC)

I used a different computer to add that. Maybe different computers' fonts vary slightly? HORTON11 : •  19:32, March 31, 2015 (UTC)

Hmm... did you use the same image editor? 77topaz (talk) 08:37, April 1, 2015 (UTC)

I only ever use paint. HORTON11 : •  13:31, April 1, 2015 (UTC)

That font difference is strange, then. Were the two computers similar? 77topaz (talk) 23:02, April 1, 2015 (UTC)

One is slightly more vintage, the other is new. HORTON11 : •  13:03, April 2, 2015 (UTC)

Prinsenberg in Cape Cross Parish doesn't have a label. Perhaps that spare label near Geitstand was a misplaced label for Prinsenberg? 77topaz (talk) 05:30, April 4, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, could be. HORTON11 : •  15:22, April 4, 2015 (UTC)

Brunant chat
Please come to Brunant chat. ] Happy65   Talk   Contributions  19:06, April 4, 2015 (UTC)

29th or 30th matchday
Please can I do either of the 29th or 30th matchdays of the First League? Thanks. ] Happy65  Talk  Contributions  09:16, April 5, 2015 (UTC)

The 29th matchday is "assigned" to Horton, and the 30th to me. 77topaz (talk) 11:18, April 5, 2015 (UTC)

Happy, you can do the 299th. It's fine. HORTON11 : •  13:46, April 5, 2015 (UTC)

My wiki!!
Hey Horton, I made my own Wiki. Here's the link, and pass it on to other people in the Wikination community:

New Rome Wiki

Why are you bocked??
Why are you blocked?? What happened?? Traspes - Dianna Bartol 14:27, April 11, 2015 (UTC)

See this. 77topaz (talk) 21:04, April 11, 2015 (UTC)

Welcome back, Horton! :) 77topaz (talk) 22:39, April 13, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. HORTON11 : •  13:39, April 14, 2015 (UTC)

Hey Horton, could you update the tables for the 2014-15 Second League? Also: what is the plan for the next season? 77topaz (talk) 22:56, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * ^Did you see this, Horton? 77topaz (talk) 23:08, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly busy now, so you might have to take care of the tables. As for the next season, we need to discuss that with all interested users. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 13:20, April 16, 2015 (UTC)

Wow, you're back! Welcome/Traspes - Dianna Bartol 00:20, April 15, 2015 (UTC)

Match notice.
The 19:45 game between St. Marks Koningstad and Dortmund SFC will play an important role in the title race. Highlights will be posted on Brunant chat starting 19:45 CEST. ] Happy65  Talk  Contributions  15:25, April 18, 2015 (UTC)

What time is that UTC? Also, Murray scored five goals in one game? Wouldn't that be somewhat unrealistic? 77topaz (talk) 21:38, April 18, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, those five goals do seem a little fishy. HORTON11 : •  14:24, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

Suggestion
You should include a link to chat in the sidebar, for the benefit of your monobook-using users. --Semyon 18:00, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, that can be done. HORTON11 : •  18:19, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

Categories
@Topic in Lovia: We have to categorize people's articles this way: Veldsteen, Wilhelmus. --Wabba The I (talk) 15:48, May 1, 2015 (UTC)

There's no need to do so. We should really focus on changing all pages to the plural categories, which is more important. HORTON11 : •  15:52, May 1, 2015 (UTC)

Search up Superleague Formula. Tons of football clubs had a Formula 1 type tournament. Clubs included Dortmund, Atletico, Liverpool, Lyon, Bordeaux, Roma, Corinthians, Basel, Porto, PSV and more. Unfortunately it ended. ] Happy65  Talk  Contributions  06:24, May 4, 2015 (UTC)

It wasn't very successful, though. But I'm surprised something like that actually existed. HORTON11 : •  13:20, May 4, 2015 (UTC)

Frijoles's candidacy has been withdrawn, so any chance of your and RI's support for Neil Hardy? ] Happy65  Talk  Contributions  20:50, May 6, 2015 (UTC)

Can you be a candidate of Prime Minister?? I will give you a vote, but no conservatives. Traspes - Dianna Bartol 23:21, May 6, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think I'd run. HORTON11 : •  12:54, May 7, 2015 (UTC)

Sint-Elisa
Hi, would I be able to raise the population of Sint-Elisa to make it more of a town/city instead of a tiny village with a population of 251? Italiaholden (talk) 13:03, May 9, 2015 (UTC)

Not really, sorry. We already have our population well set out. HORTON11 : •  13:11, May 9, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Italiaholden (talk) 13:25, May 9, 2015 (UTC)

No problem. Places like Sint-Elisa are localities (quite small settlements), but you can still add quite a bit (check out Cornel). HORTON11 : •  13:31, May 9, 2015 (UTC)

That kind of limits what can be done. There's not going to be much in a village with a population that size other than maybe a post office and most of the bigger towns and cities have already been developed. Italiaholden (talk) 13:42, May 9, 2015 (UTC)

Well there's a lot that can be done for many of the larger towns. Some like Grunbeck, Sint-Hendrikstad, Nieuw Helmond and even Boguestown could be developed and expanded. HORTON11 : •  13:47, May 9, 2015 (UTC)

IWO
How would I go about linking another fictional country to the IWO community? Italiaholden (talk) 16:51, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

You should develop your country quite well first off, it needs a lot of work and dedication. HORTON11 : •  17:02, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

2015-16
So, what's the plan for the 2015-16 season in terms of league expansions, etc.? 77topaz (talk) 20:19, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, and also, have you seen this? 77topaz (talk) 20:21, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

We need to discuss the league expansion I was more enthusiastic for it earlier but right now I'm not sure. It'd be expanded to 18 clubs I think, and one would (I hope) be AS Cettatie. HORTON11 : •  20:25, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

Would the Second League remain at 10 teams? 77topaz (talk) 20:36, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

Probably, but of course we should discuss it. You might wanna come to chat. HORTON11 : •  20:38, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I've got a class now, but I'll probably be back in three hours. 77topaz (talk) 20:51, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

In three hours I'll be asleep. Sithlent or Traspes may be on by then. HORTON11 : •  21:05, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

So, if we went with 18 teams in the First League including Cettatie and 10 in the Second, then three teams would be promoted from the 2014-15 Second League instead of two (the table is still out of date, by the way) and one team would be directly promoted to the Second League (so the playoff structure would be more complicated)? 77topaz (talk) 00:26, May 11, 2015 (UTC)

That's more or less what would happen. You see it as viable? HORTON11 : •  14:38, May 11, 2015 (UTC)

New Grijzestad striker!
I noticed that the Grijzestad Strijders have a lack of strikers, if you don't mind I'd like to transfer someone there, however I'm allowed to transfer them away from the club in any transfer window. ] Happy65  Talk  Contributions  16:10, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Who do you have in mind? HORTON11 : •  17:01, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

The Strijders do have some strikers, Emad Nabil, Ali Hussein and Georges Leclair. 77topaz (talk) 20:17, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Hey Horton, could you update the table at 2014-15 Second League to the end of the season? 77topaz (talk) 22:01, May 31, 2015 (UTC)

I'm not too sure if I have the time. Perhaps you should start that and I'll help you if you're stuck on something (though be warned I sometimes get confused too :P) HORTON11 :  •  13:02, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

Sembot
What tasks do you want me to do? --Semyon 21:22, June 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well passing pages from singular to plural. Especially Category:Dead person to Category:Dead people, Category:Footballer and Category:Association football players to Category:Footballers and if you have time, the pages in the categories under Category:Person by occupation to the plural ones. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 13:15, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

Has/is the Brunant national football team had/going to have to have any friendlies or tours this summer? I could help with results etc. 77topaz (talk) 22:40, July 4, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes and yes. I played out a few summer friendlies on my playstation and have to add them, but if you like you can help out with others later on. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:51, July 5, 2015 (UTC)


 * :o 11:21, July 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:34, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

Idea
I am working on a female member of the Libertan Royal Family, born in 1920, died in 1967, who never married, but she had a lot of relationships with several men in Libertas, the United States, France and Brunant. She renounced her titles in 1950 when she was pregnant from a Libertan man. Maybe there is a Brunanter politician that could be the illegitimate son/daughter of this princess? Wabba The I oOO...21xO...OOo (talk) 11:28, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

That could be possible. Id find perhaps some sort of celebrity more interesting. - horton

Chat
Please come to chat, thanks. ] Happy65  Talk  Contributions  15:39, August 4, 2015 (UTC)

I can come now. HORTON11 : •  21:47, August 4, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Chat? Thanks. ] Happy65   Talk   Contributions  13:37, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

Wiki Web
Hey,

Today I founded Wiki Web. On Wiki Web everyone can make a website for his/her company in a wikination. My question for you: Could you add a link to Wiki Web on the homepage of Brunant wiki? Niels20020 (overleg/talk) 12:08, August 17, 2015 (UTC)


 * I'd probably wait until the website is up and running before doing so, but once you get some activity there from various users it could be done. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:40, August 20, 2015 (UTC)

Could we say Hendrikstad FC beat Roodstad Athletic in the playoffs and was promoted to the Second League? 77topaz (talk) 06:57, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

I would prefer to keep the same Second League teams. If we're talking a playoff we would need to determine the leaders for each of the leagues as well as do a proper playoff to ensure fairness. HORTON11 : •  17:54, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Well, two of them have already been determined at 2014-15 Parish League System. I'm not sure when I'd have enough time, but possibly I could add the other two by this weekend. 77topaz (talk) 21:57, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

That would be good. HORTON11 : •  22:06, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

2015-16 Football transfers still looks fairly empty. Could we say Ahmed Al-Gashir moved from FC Drenthe to Arabian FC? 77topaz (talk) 05:27, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Sure, not too many have been done as I have been inactive, but perhaps we could do a few retroactively util this weekend. HORTON11 : •  05:30, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Please come to chat (football transfers). ] Happy65   Talk   Contributions  16:18, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Logo
Would you be able to create a logo for Hendrikstad FC? Information about the club's colours etc. is on the page. 77topaz (talk) 09:31, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

I guess I could. HORTON11 : •  14:15, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Brunant - Phaluh relations
When is our trade deal ever going to take place? Lancededcena (talk) 17:51, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

I can work on that today. Just finishing up with a few football things which were delayed as well. HORTON11 : •  17:53, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Any progress on this issue? Lancededcena (talk) 08:51, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Two questions
77topaz (talk) 09:37, September 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Would Chester Forest FC have been founded before or after Chester FC?
 * 2) Would Chester Forest FC be based in Chester, or somewhere else in the Chester Valley region?

Well it's not related to Chester FC. HORTON11 : •  13:33, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

I know that (Chester Parish FC is the reserve team of Chester FC, not Chester Forest FC). But that doesn't actually answer what I was asking. I thought it would be useful to know for creating that article. 77topaz (talk) 20:25, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Alright.


 * 1) Could be before.
 * 2) It'd be nice to see it somewhere else (in the region). HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:57, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Youcef Mahdidi
Hey Horton,

Can we (Phaluhm Phoueck) buy Youcef Mahdidi for Basketball Laheka?

Greetings, Niels20020 (Talk) 15:14, September 29, 2015 (UTC)


 * Well maybe come to chat, we might need to discuss that there. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 15:16, September 29, 2015 (UTC)


 * Wabba still doesn't react. Can I ask it to you or someone other? Niels20020 (Talk) 17:17, October 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Try Topaz, he'll usually answer soon. If not, we can discuss it. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:19, October 6, 2015 (UTC)


 * Ok Niels20020 (Talk) 13:43, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Tagog genocide
Tagog has started a genocide of one of its regions. How will Brunant react to this? 77topaz (talk) 02:28, October 2, 2015 (UTC)


 * WAR! FictiveJ (talk) 05:55, October 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not genocide, we're just dealing with some criminal activity. I like FJ's thinking, however. :P --Semyon 10:39, October 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * We'll it'd be no fun if we obliterate Tagog's army only in a day though. And unless Tagog does threaten Brunant, we probably won't invade and crush their army. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 12:49, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Koningstad & Patriam City
Hey Horton,

Can Koningstad and Patriam City become twin cities?

Niels20020 (Talk) 13:50, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

PS: If you want to make a Brunanter embassy in Patriam is that also possible, please in the neighbourhood Centre. If you make a embassy in Patriam, I will also make a Patriam embassy in Brunant.


 * You might need to reduce the size and population of Pratriam. Our wikination "world" consists of small countries with under 2 million people. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 13:52, October 7, 2015 (UTC)


 * But my country is different, it's bigger so our population is more. Niels20020 (Talk) 14:20, October 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Usually we try not to do that, cause much bigger would interfere that much more with the real world. In the past people have created countries with your population/size but they don't end up part of our wikinations and the IWO. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:24, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Patriam (IWO)
See:. Please decide whether you guys allow Patriam as a new full member of the IWO. --O u WTB 17:06, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Can we also have Phaluhm as a full member? Lancededcena (talk) 17:11, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Phaluhm (IWO)

 * 1) ASEAN and ACD - Joining the IWO will allow your buisness and economy grow in to South East Asian countries and other Asian Countries between the ACD.
 * 2) Pacific Trade - Joining the IWO will improve your Asia-Pacific Trade as we are a great trade route from Asia-Pacific to the Americas.
 * 3) Resources - We have a vast supply of oil, gold and copper. We also plant bananas, pineapples and mangos, and we ship them off to other countries.
 * 4) Relations with other Asian countries - Since we are a member of APEC, ASEAN and ACD, your country can benifit on making trade deals, starting new companies etc.
 * 5) Economy - We are one of the richest countries, due to oil, gold and other sucessful companies like Air Phaluhm, PTV and the Kaliybatan Corporation, which owns buisnesses such as Pham-Su. FlyPhoueck, Themn, Tempest and Liberalty Bank.
 * Hows this? Lancededcena (talk) 15:02, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

WNFA
Hey Horton,

Phaluhm Phoueck and Patriam would like to become member of the WNFA. 77topaz said you're the mainly person in charge of the WNFA, so I ask to you if we can become members :)

Niels20020 (Talk) 09:00, October 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * That's fine. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 13:39, October 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * Can Patriam now become member too? Football is very good developed in the country now (if you compare it with Phaluhm Phoueck) Niels20020 (Talk) 13:20, October 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * I guess so, but you should really be focusing on things that are not football for the wiki. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 13:24, October 19, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Are you still online? I've returned to chat. 77topaz (talk) 22:55, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

I don't suppose you're still awake? 77topaz (talk) 02:07, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

No, I did go to sleep. But I am awake now. HORTON11 : •  13:52, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

When you wrote that, I had gone to sleep. :P But I am awake now. :P 77topaz (talk) 21:04, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

Well I'm back now. I was out with a friend and have lost any chance f sleep, so we can chat if you like. HORTON11 : •  01:20, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

Embassy in Phaluhm
Brunant has been officialy called as one of its allies in the Department of Foregin Relations in Phaluhm since we have signed trade deals and started companies in both countries. Can you please add an embassy in Phaluhm, thanks! Lancededcena (talk) 19:30, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Coalitions
If you'd like to discuss coalitions in the municipal elections, please come to the chat. ] Happy65   Talk   Contributions  13:15, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

Category pluralisation
User talk:Semyon

This seems problematic... :P 77topaz (talk) 03:07, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

How so? HORTON11 : •  16:07, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

I meant, I was pointing out it was a problem which would need fixing. 77topaz (talk) 20:06, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

Yea, if Sembot could do that for us, it would really help. But blame Wabba for all of this, he's the one who made us go to plural :P HORTON11 :  •  20:05, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Strange question
This might be a strange question, but I still remember that moment you received a global block. You apparently deleted a lot of pages on a wiki and I am asking myself how many pages you can delete as an admin before you get a global block. I am asking this because Wikistad needs a cleaning and I want to delete a lot of pages and now I am wondering how many pages I can delete before I get that global block. So? How many pages you deleted? Wabba The I (talk) 16:47, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

I do not remember (though maybe around 20) nor do I know what the policy is. HORTON11 : •  17:22, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

I delete around 30 pages per day on Wikistad, but I keep on editing good pages as well. Wabba The I (talk) 19:36, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

And what's with that? HORTON11 : •  19:45, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Could you please come to chat? It'd be appreciated. ] Happy65   Talk   Contributions  17:35, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

Tourist ads
Can I add some tourist ads in your newspaper? Lancededcena  21:49, December 1, 2015 (UTC)

Which one? HORTON11 : •  15:35, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

Here you go. Lancededcena  16:17, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

Nice, but I meant, which paper? Or if you haven't chosen one, Perhaps The Daily Post or even the Cape Times. HORTON11 : •  16:31, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

Cape Times please. Lancededcena  16:35, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

Sure, we can replace the Stella Artois one; the size of this one would fit well. Btw, come to chat if you can. I'd also like to place ads in Phaluhm papers, if you have some. HORTON11 : •  16:37, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

Is there meant to be a First League matchday this weekend, or would the winter break have begun already? 77topaz (talk) 06:05, December 5, 2015 (UTC)

This would be Traspes' weekend, and then you'd follow. HORTON11 : •  15:33, December 5, 2015 (UTC)

So, would the winter break have started now, or would there be another matchday next weekend? 77topaz (talk) 21:10, December 9, 2015 (UTC)

There'd be a next matchday, which I believe is yours. HORTON11 : •  14:14, December 10, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it would be my matchday. After that matchday, the winter break would begin? 77topaz (talk) 22:22, December 10, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah. HORTON11 : •  16:36, December 11, 2015 (UTC)

Okay. The winter transfer window would also begin at that point? 77topaz (talk) 20:57, December 11, 2015 (UTC)

It does seem a little early, but that would be the case. HORTON11 : •  15:31, December 12, 2015 (UTC)

Traspes and Brunant military group
I created a military group for coperation ans defence of Brunant and Traspes, GMEDAT, so please put a unit of Brunanter soldiers to be a part of the group. Traspes - Dianna Bartol 04:28, December 14, 2015 (UTC)

Seems good, but I wouldn't want a binding clause in that that would force us into war. HORTON11 : •  14:01, December 14, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Do you think you could come to chat today? It'd be appreciated. Thanks. ] Happy65  Talk  Contributions  17:38, December 14, 2015 (UTC)

Sure. HORTON11 : •  17:43, December 14, 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps you could come again? Thanks. ] Happy65   Talk   Contributions  16:10, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

Mariana (OpenGeofiction) news
Hey Horton,

Do you mind if I would be in charge for the news of Mariana on https://ognnews.wordpress.com/ ? I would like it and if you would have some important news you could tell me.

Greetings, Niels20020 (Talk) 19:16, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

Btw, I would like to tell this on the OpenGeofiction Wiki, but I still have problems with my account there :(

That's no problem. Well at the moment there isn't much to tell other than the theme park near Benicar being part of a Freedemian group now. HORTON11 : •  18:21, January 20, 2016 (UTC)


 * Ok, shall I write a news-article about the theme park? And if yes, what has to be in it? Niels20020 (Talk) 19:33, January 22, 2016 (UTC)
 * Look over the page and add what you like. You have creative freedom :P HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 16:42, January 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, I will write a nice article about it :) Niels20020 (Talk) 17:44, January 23, 2016 (UTC)

Mariana
Are the motorways meant to stop dead as they currently do, or are they meant to be linked up somehow? Also, your avatar seems to have stopped working. 77topaz (talk) 19:51, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

Nah, those motorways will go somewhere; we're not like some people who start their roads and they end up only half-paved or incomplete :P HORTON11 :  •  18:22, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

Okay. Do you have a plan for that already? 77topaz (talk) 19:12, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

Not really. Feel free to help expand it. Provinces/capitals would probably be added based on that. HORTON11 : •  19:15, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, so you haven't precisely defined the borders of those yet (apart from the Benicar region)? 77topaz (talk) 19:25, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

No, not yet. If you can help out with that, it would be much appreciated. HORTON11 : •  16:41, January 23, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, let's see, the following provinces are listed on the wiki: Okay, so there are four provinces yet to "place". Notably, there aren't any in the eastern area around Altilla yet (this is a large area, so it could be two provinces), or in the southwestern area around Granida. There could also possibly be another province between Barzona and Carante. 77topaz (talk) 19:31, January 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * Aranzia - I don't see the capital Denia anywhere yet, so, where would this province be?
 * Benicar Region - already defined.
 * Carante - province around Carante, in the central part of the country.
 * Castelo Miranda - province around Miranda; would probably cover the large northwestern peninsula.
 * Barzona - province around Narvas; would probably cover the area across the bay from Castelo Miranda and Benicar.
 * Pabella, Santa Maria, Vianna - not yet known, like Aranzia.
 * Ravaner - Tangres is located at the south end of Benicar, so this province would probably cover the area immediately south of Castelo Miranda.

^Hey Horton, did you see this (or, for that matter, Niels's question below)? 77topaz (talk) 20:29, January 27, 2016 (UTC)

Horton? Are you there, Horton? :P 77topaz (talk) 19:34, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, busy with studies but now I have. Feel free to add the other provinces where you see it best. I never purposefully defined them in order for us to have the freedom to design the map better. HORTON11 : •  15:30, February 13, 2016 (UTC)

Okay. You haven't yet decided what province Altilla and Granida are part of? 77topaz (talk) 19:59, February 13, 2016 (UTC)

Well if you want an idea, Altilla could be in Aranzia province. Works out well. HORTON11 : •  15:24, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, then, how about this: 77topaz (talk) 19:12, February 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * Pabella is in the southwest, around Granida.
 * Santa Maria is between Barzona and Carante.
 * Vianna is between Carante and Aranzia.

Sure. Sounds good. |||| (Horton11)

OK. :) 77topaz (talk) 08:26, February 16, 2016 (UTC) I assume you meant to type ~ instead of ||||? :P On my keyboard, those are located at opposite ends of the keyboard. :P

Some new questions about Mariana
Hey Horton,

I've got three questions about Mariana for you:
 * Shouldn't we also have are boundaries like Riko has them? I mean that we also have some water in it.
 * Can you (or someone you know) create a logo for Radio Televisión Mariana, so I can use it for the OGN-News Center?
 * Shall we bid for the 2018 International Foosball world Cup? (See: https://ognnews.wordpress.com/2015/07/03/countries-other-than-freedemia-can-bid-to-host-international-foosball-world-cup-in-2018/) And if yes, which city would you like? I was thinking of Benicar or Carante (but that city doesn't has an airport).

Greetings Niels20020 (Talk) 11:47, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

Your first question is a little hard to understand. Are you talking about lakes or coastlines or something else altogether? 77topaz (talk) 19:29, January 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm talking about the borders of Mariana. Maybe it should not be the same as the coastline, but in the sea, like Riko (and a lot of other countries) has them. Niels20020 (Talk) 06:28, January 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay, that makes sense. OGF has some specific rules about that. 77topaz (talk) 19:01, January 25, 2016 (UTC)

Horton? Hello? Have you seen any of the messages from January 23 onward? 77topaz (talk) 20:58, February 10, 2016 (UTC) HORTON11 : •  15:46, February 13, 2016 (UTC) Niels20020 (Talk) 11:28, February 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * I am unsure of how to do that. But if you or Topaz can do so, go ahead.
 * I could make a logo for RTM.
 * We can. it would be benicar, unless we added an airport in Carante. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 15:32, February 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't think I'm able to do that, but maybe topaz can.
 * Thank you!
 * Okay, I shall say it :)
 * Btw, I now have my own country in OGF. It's called Balonis. Niels20020 (Talk) 15:25, February 16, 2016 (UTC)
 * You're still going to work on Mariana too, though, right? 77topaz (talk) 18:46, February 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I stay working in Mariana Niels20020 (Talk) 19:02, February 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to use OGF properly, which editor is better? My town's called Altaville, somewhere in western Commonia. Valandre (SDP) FictiveJ (discuss) 21:49, February 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * I've only used the default Potlatch editor, which is mostly fine (it has a few drawbacks, such as lacking a scale when you're editing). There is a more specialized editor called JOSM; however, you have to download that as a separate application. 77topaz (talk) 04:11, February 18, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I don't feel the need to get that yet. I have started work on Pabella, centered around a fortress. Like Naarden a bit. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 15:28, February 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, that looks good. :) 77topaz (talk) 19:18, February 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * Altaville will eventually have some more services, when I'm not busy with school that is Valandre (SDP) FictiveJ (discuss) 01:15, February 22, 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe you could work on Mariana, too? There's always a risk with publically-editable areas like Commonia of your edits being randomly overwritten; though, you'll have to have had an account for seven days to be able to edit Mariana, I think. 77topaz (talk) 09:55, February 22, 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually you don't have to have your account 7 days. I started editing in Mariana when I only had my account for 2 days, I think Niels20020 (talk) 18:00, March 6, 2016 (UTC)
 * Hmm... that would imply Horton set Mariana to be publically editable. 77topaz (talk) 04:47, March 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Not really. I would welcome other editros but not as a shared territory in order to prevent trolls/bad edits etc. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:32, March 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Then how was Niels capable of editing it after 2 days? The site regulations say users can only edit public territories until they've been on the site for 7 days. 77topaz (talk) 09:43, March 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * No idea. But its not a big deal. Still, if Fictive or someone else is new, try and edit in commonia first to get a hang of stuff. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 13:34, March 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, I just asked a admin if I had to wait 7 days and work in public territories or if I could just could start editing in Mariana. And he said I could start in Mariana Niels20020 (talk) 18:41, March 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * Hmm... But doesn't that mean that any OGF user could edit it? 77topaz (talk) 19:03, March 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * No, because I've told the admin that Horton gave me permission to edit there :) Niels20020 (talk) 20:13, March 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay, that makes sense, you were specially granted permission. Then again, anyone could just say they had been given permission by the owner... :P 77topaz (talk) 05:57, March 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * Could be a problem. Then again, its not like anyone else has wanted to edit Mariana. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 16:26, March 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * I meant more along the lines of random vandals. But I suppose any damage done by vandals could be reversed by the site administration, could it not? 77topaz (talk) 08:51, March 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm sure. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 20:06, March 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, that's good. 77topaz (talk) 06:59, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

Hey Horton, would you be able to design a logo for Hendrikstad FC? 77topaz (talk) 11:34, May 6, 2016 (UTC)

^Did you see this, Horton? 77topaz (talk) 23:09, May 8, 2016 (UTC)

Chat
So now I'm back, please come to chat sometime :) Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 17:42, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Once again
Please be still online and come to chat. Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 13:14, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

Are you back on chat or is that just a glitch? Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:08, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

Chat isn't working.. :( Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 15:00, July 11, 2016 (UTC)

Judiciary
I'm working on law and judiciary now, because there is still some work to do on it. Wabba The I (talk) 20:38, December 5, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, that's a good plan. We need to determine the number of courts and such; the main and medium cities will hold municipal courts, then four or 5 regional courts or something along those lines. HORTON11 : •  20:43, December 5, 2016 (UTC)

Mariana...
Hey,

Are you planning to come back to Opengeofiction and continue working on Mariana? I've seen on the overview map that it has been marked for a withdrawal now, so I thought it was worth mentioning. I edit sometimes in Mariana, but it has been very inactive, so that does not really motivates me :p I'm primarly working on my own country, Balonis, now.

Greetings, Niels20020 (talk) 18:40, January 18, 2017 (UTC)

I might just do that then. And link me to Balonis so we can do stuff. HORTON11 : •  20:45, January 18, 2017 (UTC)

So you are coming back? That would be great! And I'd really love to help in Mariana This is Balonis by the way (the country left of Aorangëa, for some reason the name tag doesn't work), pretty empty yet :p Niels20020 (talk) 13:56, January 19, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah i think i am back. My southern neighbor added a big town near my border. Had no plans for that region aprt from small villag, but perhaps now a large army base or something. HORTON11 : •  20:43, January 19, 2017 (UTC)

Ah, very nice. I've already had contact with your southern neighbour (just about setting up a airline route). An army base sounds like a good idea to me. I will do something in Mariana in four days. Niels20020 (talk) 19:40, January 20, 2017 (UTC)

Alright. I have started work, perhaps a small town near the base will be good. I had not intended a larger city like there is just across the border, but a town would be good. HORTON11 : •  21:23, January 20, 2017 (UTC)

Chat
Hey. Could you come to chat? Thanks. Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:25, February 11, 2017 (UTC)

Hiya
When you're next online (or around 20h-21h CET) could you come to chat? Thanks. Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 17:37, February 15, 2017 (UTC)

Active now. I had to work. HORTON11 : •  21:10, February 15, 2017 (UTC)

And again sometime tonight if you can? Thanks. Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 17:49, February 19, 2017 (UTC)

Chat?
See subject :o Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 21:05, February 24, 2017 (UTC)

Chat
If you can, please come to chat some time. Thanks. Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:47, March 4, 2017 (UTC)

Chat
I'm there now. :o 77topaz (talk) 20:57, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Corruption scandal
I've added a draft about the here. What do you think? Feel free to edit the page if you want. 77topaz (talk) 05:05, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

I think we need the word nepotism in there :p And perhaps formulate a law on party spending/transparency. How do you feel about using national party funds for local politics, seeing as (most likely) the government would give some funding to the main parties. HORTON11 : •  20:04, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Ramzi Karimi
Hey Horton, do you think Ramzi Karimi would run in the 2017 general election, or that he'd retire due to his age? 77topaz (talk) 05:49, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

You choose. But woud this mean he'd abandon local politics? HORTON11 : •  12:51, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

I think he'd remain in Koningstad local politics either way, at least until the next local elections. 77topaz (talk) 20:15, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

Roodstad municipal government
TimeMaster changed the Roodstad page, specifically the municipal government table you created, saying it should be a left-wing city. To avoid an edit war, I ask what your opinion of this is? 77topaz (talk) 04:09, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

The fact that a city has been left wing historically does not mean it will be always left wing at all time. HORTON11 : •  09:45, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Please fix this, it's unrealistic. CDU is not an urban party. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 01:41, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Track listing
Just so you know, I also implemented Template:Track listing on this wiki. 77topaz (talk) 10:29, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

Ok. And pages which use it? I took this template from the The Tunnel We Perceive album. HORTON11 : •  10:39, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

I used it on the pages for Brothers of the Sun albums, like Caribbean Brunant. 77topaz (talk) 22:12, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, great. HORTON11 : •  10:06, April 5, 2017 (UTC)

Phaluhm Muslim Crisis
I got an idea for a operation in Phaluhm Phoueck. Operation GHOST: In the Kota Kambular state, a bit operation of many countries, Traspes, Libertas, Brunant, Strasland. You like it?? Traspes - Dianna Bartol 01:34, June 3, 2017 (UTC)

Is that the one you posted about in the MFPP talk page? horton11 12:21, June 3, 2017 (UTC)

Hey Horton, did you see the message I left on your talk page on the WNFA wiki? 77topaz (talk) 21:16, June 24, 2017 (UTC)

Gotta take a look then. horton11 07:10, June 25, 2017 (UTC)

Jerseys
Could you, if there is time and a will, create some jerseys for the Libertan cycling teams Stadbank-Vodafone and Maxi? Wabba The I (talk) 20:25, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah I can try. Does it matter the color or anything? horton11 20:08, July 25, 2017 (UTC)

Maxi red and Stadbank-Vodafone blue or something. Wabba The I (talk) 07:47, July 26, 2017 (UTC) here's the first one. horton11 13:32, July 29, 2017 (UTC)

Track listing
How come you stopped using Template:Track listing on your newest album pages? You did use it for several pages earlier this year. 77topaz (talk) 11:42, September 30, 2017 (UTC)


 * Woops, completely forgot. Gotta see about changing that then. horton11 18:02, September 30, 2017 (UTC)

The link you just placed on your user page
You could embed that list directly on your user page (like I have on mine) by typing. 77topaz (talk) 02:23, October 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * I guess I could, but I don't specifically want them all in my user page. horton11 13:03, October 4, 2017 (UTC)

Senate
It is really important for me to know how the Senators are elected. I propose they are elected by the governments of the parishes as Brunant is a federal state. This means that people who are elected Senators, but were also elected to the House of Representatives (participating in the general election) will lose their seat in the House and have to be replaced in the House by another person. Wabba The I (talk) 14:30, February 23, 2018 (UTC)

I had planned for senate seats to be distributed in proportion of seats won in the house and not separately elected. horton11 20:43, February 23, 2018 (UTC)

Okay, but how is it decided that certain particular people get a seat in the Senate? Wabba The I (talk) 10:28, February 24, 2018 (UTC)


 * Maybe a party list would be the way, like the house. But we can also try and have the Senate abolished since it doesn't have much power anyway. horton11 20:05, February 24, 2018 (UTC)


 * As a federal state, the federal states (which are the parishes) must be represented in Congress and the best way for them to be represented is not by a party list, but by nomination by the parishes or by the members of the House, which is a better idea, I think. And yes, I am also contra this whole Senate business. There is btw only one mentioning of Brunant being a federal state, which is on the homepage. Wabba The I (talk) 12:36, February 25, 2018 (UTC)
 * Brunant isn't really a federal state (not sure why that's there). Maybe at the very beginning of the wiki but most of the power is with government/congress, and the rest is with the cities/towns. horton11 20:21, February 25, 2018 (UTC)
 * If it is not a federal state, that sentence should be removed from the homepage. And also, the Senate should be abolished. We could say the Senate would be no longer a congressional institution after the 2017 general election? When there were more active users on this wiki, the Senate was a meeting place for user-backed politicians. Wabba The I (talk) 12:33, February 28, 2018 (UTC)
 * We can have the current government try and abolish the senate. horton11 14:11, February 28, 2018 (UTC)
 * That seems good to me. Wabba The I (talk) 14:38, February 28, 2018 (UTC)

George the Greek
It's been four years since this user made an edit, but still he's an admin. Can you remove his special user rights? Wabba The I (talk) 17:08, May 24, 2018 (UTC)
 * I guess we can. horton11 18:34, May 24, 2018 (UTC)

New
Hey Horton11 I'm new around here I was wonderig if you could give me a quick brief on anything I need to know. Also, do you have any idea to make the infobox in my 1407 Siege of Miltona article more like the classical war infoboxes on wiki.

Yoshieisawsim (talk) 00:14, September 24, 2018 (UTC)
 * Your page look exceptionally detailed. If you want look at other battles here on the wiki for templates, layouts etc. horton11

Several of Yoshieisawsim's edits change around established history, like renaming Middleton Island to "Georgic Island". What should we do about those? 77topaz (talk) 03:44, October 2, 2018 (UTC)


 * Hey 77topaz, that's pretty much the only change to established history, and I felt it was necessary, considering originally some pages refer to the Island as being called Middleton Island several hundred years before Middleton was a place (which doesn't make much sense at all). I don't think it changes much about the actual history except for making it more developed, like and actual Island would be, but if horton11 also has a problem with it I'd be happy to change it back (it's only mentioned a few times throughout wiki anyways). Otherwise most of my edits have been to make Georgic/Middleton Island more complete and logical and giving it real depth, as compared to the other islands it seems to have had very little attention paid to it. I'm kind of new to the community but I do feel like as long as I'm not changing anything that anyone has put a lot of time/effort into or changing things that will cause problems, I should be good. Please let me know if you have any other problems with what I've been doing. Yoshieisawsim (talk) 03:56, October 2, 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree with Topaz. Contemporary and current established things, places, people of significance should be left as is, so I will change the name back to Middleton Island. Prior to the English name in use, it would have used "Miltona" or some variation thereof for the island's name, and before the founding of the town in 1350 or something the name has not yet been set. horton11 13:03, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

Former departments
Do you have suggestions of former departments e.g. Fisheries and Agriculture? Wabba The I (talk) 20:08, October 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * Not sure, there are some mentioned already. Feel free to create some. horton11 15:48, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

Election 2019
Hey Horton, I see that there is a general election and I was wondering if I could be involved - how does that work?

AlsoI had an idea for an event before/during the election. Starford is a locality in Middleton Island which has a population of 812 (previously 536) which is well above the unofficial threshold of 500 to become a village. Given it's character as a muslim majority locality on a Christian majority island (especially as they vote as part of the Spanish Christian majority Middleton for local elections) it makes sense that they would want to be able to have their own government. So I was wondering if they could lauch a campaign over the coming months to become a village (and thus gain their own council), eventually culminating in a Middleton wide referendum (I have yet to decide whether they will actually get to become a village or not).

Yoshieisawsim (talk) 21:20, November 30, 2018 (UTC)


 * The last election we had was determined off of various different polls for the results. Aside from that there is lots to do and be involved in. Updating/creating politician and party pages, election posters, campaigns/promises etc. Now for Starford, they can definitely launch a campaign, but as far as I know it is up to the government to determine that, likely that which comes in in the spring. horton11 13:59, December 1, 2018 (UTC)


 * I was thinking that the likely mechansim for Starford to become a village would be a vote on the Middleton council and should that pass then it would go through to the government for a vote (and I assume that the government would be likely to reject it given they would have less interest in the daily governance of every municipailty, village and town).
 * Yoshieisawsim (talk) 09:34, December 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, at that point the government would be unlikely to reject it. If Starford has shown interest in becoming a village (and meets the threshold) then the government would approve it. If Starford cannot agree on becoming a village the government would not do so. horton11 14:52, December 8, 2018 (UTC)