User talk:Horton11

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2013-14 First League schedule
Using the Teamopolis round-robin generator, I've created a schedule for the 2013-14 First League. What do you think? 77topaz (talk) 23:10, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

It looks great. Let's use that one then. HORTON11 : •  12:49, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

Should I do the same thing for a bball schedule? Ethandabomb (talk) 21:42, May 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sure, if you want to have an active season. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 05:46, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

is there any way to create new templates? Ethandabomb (talk) 01:07, May 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, you just add a page called Template:whatever (fill in the blank) and that's a template.   HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 05:46, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

Hi horton, I don't know why I'm getting this problem, but when I type in the url of the image, a little 1 with a link appears and takes me to the image. I tried to get it to show the whole thing, and it's still showing the link on the brunantstad eagles page. Tips, suggestion? Thanks Ethandabomb (talk) 22:10, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

Parquet Palace
Hi I was wondering if i could get the Cardinals Parquet Palace considered as a National Monument. Also, the Palace needs a map of the museum and i'm not very good with that kind of thing. Thanks!Ethandabomb (talk) 00:58, May 31, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll see what I can do about the map. And talk to MMunson about monuments; he's in charge, I believe. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 18:53, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Horton, is there going to be a Brunant Supercup this year? 77topaz (talk) 07:17, June 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I was thinking sometime in early August, kinda like a season opener. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 18:51, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

When exactly are we going to hold the IWO Games? 77topaz (talk) 20:26, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Palm Island
Hi Horton. I'm creating my own micronation wiki and was wondering that when it got started that you could help out. Thanks! Ethandabomb (talk) 22:27, June 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * My advice: don't do it. Most newer wikinations like Strasland, Tagog and even established ones like Harvian Islands end up inactive, so my suggestion is just to use that time to work on active and established ones. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 15:15, June 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * I've already started it and have a fe editors that will be helping out. Ethandabomb (talk) 18:45, June 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * If you stay dedicated despite all problems it should turn out ok. Btw do you have a link? I'd like to check it out. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 19:20, June 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, here it is. wikipalm.wikia.com/wiki/Wikipalm_Wiki. It is the early stages so don't expect much. I could really use some help. Ethandabomb (talk) 01:59, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * it looks nice. I would change the name of the founder to a more Spanish name, as well as the independence dae in line with the resst of Spanish America. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 07:02, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * All right sounds good! If you want to you can make any edits feel free beacause I could really use some         help. Thanks! Ethandabomb (talk) 13:32, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure. Once you have a more concrete idea of how you want it I might pop in and help. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:37, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure. Once you have a more concrete idea of how you want it I might pop in and help. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:37, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Horton, there is one thing on my wiki that I could use some help on. I need help on the money, the Isla Pieza. I saw the notes you made for this and other wikis and I just thought i should mention it. Thanks. Ethandabomb (talk) 19:58, June 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Let me see. I've pretty much exhausted all my banknote ideas, so I'll see if I can come up with something. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 20:12, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, just message me if you come up with something Ethandabomb (talk) 20:28, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hi Horton, just curious, what program do you use to make your money? Thanks! Ethandabomb (talk) 13:04, June 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * MS paint. Photoshop would be better but don't have it. And I can work miracles with paint, but it takes a ton of time and patience. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:09, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I suck at those. :P Ethandabomb (talk) 17:37, June 20, 2013 (UTC) Yeah he did the Strasland money and it's really good.MMunson-talk ( Vote SLP ) 01:07, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Can you let Mickael Lindgren transfer to Standard FC and Ivan Mendeita to a Brunant team.MMunson-talk ( Vote SLP ) 04:35, June 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sure. But you should say Lindgren joined the club this season. As for Mendieta, you could add him to the Basket Niesburg squad. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 05:58, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay.MMunson-talk ( Vote SLP )

Anyhting yet on those bank notes??? Ethandabomb (talk) 15:40, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Well I wouldn't know what/who to add on them. It's better you work out the history and figures first. HORTON11 : •  15:45, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

If GUSC were to buy Jose Bandier, would Davi Salas then go to Dortmund SFC or St. Marks, and what would then happen to Johan van Grunbeck? 77topaz (talk) 00:04, June 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Van Grunbeck would go to GUSC and Salas would return to St. Marks. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 05:28, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Is there still going to be voting for the AFC awards? If not, I propose Antonio Florente for the Best Player award, Stanislaus Simon for the Best Keeper award and Sialo Miorna for the Young Player award. 77topaz (talk) 03:36, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

We might need to remove some of the non-essential awards and just focus on those three. HORTON11 : •  13:50, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Do you want me to add the results of the Austria and Southern Arc Islands matches to the Total Football talk page as well? 77topaz (talk) 20:07, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Sure. I'll add in the reports today. HORTON11 : •  14:34, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

Come on chat, please.
Wabba The I (talk) 16:01, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

Ok. HORTON11 : •  16:02, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

I added the two reports to the Total Football talk page. 77topaz (talk) 21:25, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

Wabba Cross
I, Wabba The I; user of wikinations, can say that you, George the Greek; user of wikinations, are awarded with the Wabba Cross,the highest decoration on the wikinations. I give you this medal today as the second user in history. So, you are awarded with the Wabba Cross since 13 June, 2013. Wabba The I (talk) 18:51, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

Your assistance is needed in Lovia good friend
With TimeMaster insisting on undoing my changes and believing my idea to be bad, I really could use your help in defending the ideas and changes I came up with. See the talk page of the Prince Alexander article, the Princess Sylvia article and the pub. For you to agree with me is pretty important. I do not want to get in some sort of edit war over this. Thanks in advance, The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 07:40, July 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well TM isn't gonna budge on the Princess Sylvia page, so we should let him keep that as is as long as he doesn't remove the Prince Alex things.  HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 13:13, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

I think we shouldn't give up on the IWO Games. I already wrote a Freedom Press article about delays in order to explain the lags in uploading of results. I'd like to help out with results, medals etcetera, but how exactly would I go about doing that? 77topaz (talk) 19:39, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

^Hey, Horton, did you see this? 77topaz (talk) 07:39, July 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes. For the results we'd just have to make them up, but for non-team sports I really don't know how we should go abput. Maybe we could ask for Oos' assistance on this, as he proposed much of this, or TIme, who was the drving force behind athletics and swimming. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:30, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * For any sports, creating the medal tables/rankings wouldn't be too hard; however, for non-team sports, I guess it is the actual results that are putting you off? 77topaz (talk) 16:57, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's the thing. Like how do you determine who wins in the 100m dash? Unlike football where we know which nations are stronger, all the individual sportas are a big ?? And I wouldn't know whow we would go about determining times, distances for athletics and other sports. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:08, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, by the "actual results" I was meaning just the times and distances etc. I guess that sporters which have their own pages or, for some sports, are even actually mentioned on their nation's list would do better (this is what Wabba seems to have done with the diving competitions, though I'm not sure). E.g. the Lovian players would do well in the fencing, and the Togar Family well in the throwing sports, etc. 77topaz (talk) 19:35, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * ^Hey, Horton, did you see this section as well? :P 77topaz (talk) 07:20, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well I guess we can go with that, but I still don't knw how the actual results would play out. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:52, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Pseudo-randomly, like the results for the team competitions? 77topaz (talk) 03:45, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well we would need to base it on real swimming/running result times, unlike in football where any score is (at least theoretically) possible. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 13:55, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * I guess we could create the medal tables/rankings first if you aren't sure about the actual result values. For some sports, like diving (which Wabba has already worked on) and gymnastics, round-rankings would suffice. On another point, I think it'd be a good idea to finalise the Bandier deal. 77topaz (talk) 20:14, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * (Are you on a wikibreak? :o ) Oh, also, when do you think the 2013 Brunant Supercup and the first rounds of the 2013-14 Johan II Cup should be? 77topaz (talk) 05:58, August 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * A bit, plus travel and no internet. So let's get Brunant back up to action. The Supercup can be retroactively held for last weekend, and for the league matches we can follow the Portuguese schedule, as it's the same number of matches. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 01:37, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Welcome back! Oh, by the way (I wrote this before but you probably missed it because of your travel), I think we should finalise the Bandier deal with GUSC. 77topaz (talk) 03:55, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Which was that, I don't seem to remember. Right now I'm starting on the league matchdays, and we should start working on the 2013-14 cup soon. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 03:58, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * We were thinking of transferring Jose Bandier from Dortmund to GUSC, and transferring Davi Salas and Johan van Grunbeck back to St. Marks and GUSC respectively at the same time. The league matchdays won't start for another two weeks, I thought? The first preliminary round of the cup would probably have happened by now, though. I'd be glad to help out with both. I also think it'd be a good idea to think about the Second League: would Standard FC or Sint-Anders Furie have lost in the relegation playoffs, or maybe the league would even have been expanded to twelve teams with the playoff teams (Oceana Grijzestad (because of Oos's involvement) and Sterren Koningstad, maybe?). 77topaz (talk) 04:11, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, let's do the deal. If you can help me out with the cup, it would be great. The league will start two weekends from now and the supercup would be next sunday. Well let's promote one team from the lower leagues. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 04:24, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, do you want me to edit all the corresponding pages (GUSC, Dortmund, St. Marks, the transfers page)? I don't think this season's cup has a page yet, does it? Which team(s) would you be thinking to promote or relegate? 77topaz (talk) 04:52, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, that would be great. I'll add a cup page as well. Well we can promote Oceana Grijzestad and relegate Sint-Anders, what do you think? HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 12:22, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * I added the page. We can use the same 24 teams from the parish leagues (but with new matchups. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:57, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * @Promotion: That seems okay, though Standard FC did of course do worse than Sint-Anders in the previous season. What should the fee be for Bandier? 77topaz (talk) 20:22, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well in the playoff even the higher-positioned Standard could lose, as it's just one game. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 20:26, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Huh? Standard FC finished bottom (not Sint-Anders) in the 2012-13 Second League. Also, I thought the playoffs would be two-legged ties? 77topaz (talk) 03:54, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my mistake. The better-placed team can still lose, but I don't really mind who gets demoted. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 12:20, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Who should be the replacement for Bandier in Dortmund's squad? 77topaz (talk) 20:12, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * We could create a foreign player to fill the spot, perhaps an Italian? HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 20:23, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I see you already created one. :P Do you think we should re-exchange (return) Davi Salas and Johan van Grunbeck? 77topaz (talk) 04:33, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yep, I guess so. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 11:31, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Would that require an edit to the Transfers page, or not? 77topaz (talk) 03:57, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nope. cause those were just loans. The players return to their clubs at the end of the season. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 13:16, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Would Salas go to SMK's main squad or Alexandria Koningstad? And, you wrote on GUSC's page that their only previous season in the 1. Liga had been 2010-11 - wouldn't they have been promoted at the end of the 1996-97 Second League as well? 77topaz (talk) 03:51, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well no, cause GUSC finished fourth and only the top two get promoted and demoted. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 13:11, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but Helmond RSC and Taurus Niesburg got disqualified that season, leaving GUSC as the second-highest team. :P 77topaz (talk) 21:44, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah sorry, let me fix that. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 23:50, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Would the "four times in twenty years" thing on Total Football's website still be true, then? 77topaz (talk) 02:02, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * It woul be six now. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 12:11, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Two of the meetings would've been cup matches? 77topaz (talk) 20:14, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, a home and away match. First and 2nd division teams do meat in the third round and after. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 00:32, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * When exactly do you think the first matches of this year's Johan II Cup would've been held, and what would the matchups be (the page is still largely empty)? And the Supercup would've been held by now, right? I think we talked about this before, but, do you want me to help you with either of them and (or) the league itself? 77topaz (talk) 05:15, August 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * For now if you could help me with the cup that would be great. The first cup rounds would follow the same format as previous season's. Using the same parish team but different matches. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 16:08, August 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll think about that. Do you need help with the Supercup match? That was held last weekend IC, right? 77topaz (talk) 20:16, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

Banknotes
Hey can you teach me or at least give me a few hints and tips about how you personally make the banknotes and coins you have? They look amazing and I just found your comment in Bretherlands on the Brethish Pund page. Gallo Kunarian TALK 00:04, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Well mostly I just modify real design and combine images to create real notes, but other times they are more from scratch. It's easier for mt to do than explain. HORTON11 : •  05:17, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

I understand however can you give me a basic step by step from scratch run through, doesn't have to be complex just the basic idea. Gallo Kunarian TALK 11:47, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Well it really does depend on the tye of not, if you want to go from scratch or base it on a real one. If I make one based on a real note I just remove all the writing and stuff, add a new picture and then new text to go with it. And if you're going to add personalities to the notes, you can try and find one with a guy most similar to the one you're wanting. HORTON11 : •  14:58, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

I think I'm going to try and do some work from scratch, how do you work when you do that? Gallo Kunarian TALK 15:04, August 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well I just find images and put them together, kinda like a collage. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 16:59, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Any particular places you use for resources? Gallo Kunarian TALK 17:00, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well just google images. Depending on the theme I want for the note the style may differ.  HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:15, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help. :) Gallo Kunarian TALK 17:44, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

UL
Are you for this? It seemed like you wanted the merger, but your MOTCS and Sylvanian Councilors aren't for it. Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:01, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

http://nation.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Second_Chamber Vote for two very important pieces of legislation in the second chamber. Theey would allow taxation, please vote pro! Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:09, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Hey.
Hey, I'm back to my full activeness in Brunant. I noticed the Willemstad kit, it looks pretty good but could you possibly remove the sponsor, so the kit has no sponsor, the sponsor makes the kit look like it has a random blob placed in the middle of it. Happy65 16:27, August 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok. Well you put Stadmarket as the sponsor, so they should be on the shirt. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 20:21, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

Princess Lucy-Anne's son
Hi Horton, do you mind if Lucy-Anne's illegitimate son is the Brunanter ambassador to Spain? Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 16:54, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

If he is Brunanter, it's no problem. HORTON11 : •  17:17, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, he is a Brunanter citizen and he's lived in Brunant his whole life. In fact, the only Lovian thing about him is the fact that is mother is Lovian Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 17:27, September 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well then it's no problem. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:55, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Great! Do tell me though if you want me to change his history so it doesn't interfere as much with your royal family Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 17:57, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Chat
Chat please. Thanks mate. Happy65 17:42, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Horton, are you going to update Total Football for the second matchday? And, do you want me to find the score for the Supercup? 77topaz (talk) 10:51, September 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sure. I'll do that, you do the score and meanwhile I'll set up the cup page with preliminary rounds etc, and groups. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 15:20, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * For the Supercup: Mediterranean FC 3 (Danne: '22, Florente: '51, Robertson: '80) vs Arabian FC 2 (Nietsmeyer: '34, Olsen: '65) 77topaz (talk) 22:45, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Go on chat.
I know this is basically spamming your talk page of Chat messages over the last 6 months, but hey. Happy65 18:24, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Horton, can you take a look at this? It was made by a new user and it seems to be messing with real-life history significantly. 77topaz (talk) 01:33, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and these two pages were created by that user too. 77topaz (talk) 06:43, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Elections
If you want regular elections, the spanish based constitution and the seperately elected prime-minister allows for that.

If you decide to have realistic terms, I'd suggest terms of four years for all positions: House of Reps, Senate and Prem. Here's an example of a election timetable:
 * 2013 - House of Reps
 * 2014 - First half of Senate
 * 2015 - Prime minister
 * 2016 - Second half of Senate
 * 2017 - House of Reps
 * 2018 - First half of Senate
 * 2019 - Prime minister
 * 2020 - Second half of Senate

If you want to have more frequent elections that might allow new users to become more involved quickly but not too quickly, I'd suggest terms of two years for all positions. Here's another example:
 * 2013, early - House of Reps
 * 2013, late - First half of Senate
 * 2014, early - Prime minister
 * 2014, late - Second half of Senate
 * 2015, early - House of Reps
 * 2015, late - First half of Senate
 * 2016, early - Prime minister
 * 2016, late - Second half of Senate

Wondering what you're thinking, both allow for an active politics but one, maybe more active and better for newcomers although both require people to stick around and contribute. Gallo Kunarian TALK 15:28, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * That's the thing, we don't get too many new users and even in Lovia they don't tend to come around too often. A few comments on your idea: the PM should be chosen as the leader of the government and not elected (as in most parliaments) and both house/senate elections should be done together. My proposal for these elections would be that:


 * 1) users vote for the house, Lovia-style
 * 2) Create their congresspeople in a list and divide the seats between their major party and minor ones
 * 3) The percentge of house seats is used to calculate the number of senate seats
 * 4) HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 15:52, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * You still need to attract new users, it's vital to do that, and elections at different times help to both get new users involved and stop them from invading your entire political system at once and then disappearing. Okay, so you want the PM chosen but I'd advise against doing the House/Senate elections together and doing them exactly in the manner you have been doing them. Firstly from an IC viewpoint, having elections at different times means that there's more stability politically and it's easier bureaucratically, secondly you'd be ignoring the cultural influences and making the Senate a pointless exercise by essentially having it like a smaller house of representatives. Here's a proposal that doesn't compromise the cultural influences and other points I've raised but is more like what you want:
 * (this isn't really part of the electoral system but it is) Users are registered on an electoral register (that contains their names and primary address), this happens way before the elections and provisions are made for it in the constitution.
 * Users vote for the house, with three votes like the current system (your choice if you want to review this), with seats distributed via either D'hondt (favouring larger parties), Sainte-Lague (favouring smaller parties) or by the Swedish Sainte-Lague system (favouring smaller parties but against really minor parties). Create congress people and divide their seats up to whomever.
 * Users vote for the senate, voting for candidates in order of preference for party lists (from one to however many parties are standing), then we assign the votes accordingly to each parish (to keep in line with what you are doing) and give people extra influence in the parish where their primary home is. Then the party lists get assigned seats based on the results and senate seats are distributed equally amongst those on the list.
 * This system provides not only for a more easily managed system long term, but also gives the cultural and differing elections that will make Brunant seem influenced by Spain and also make Brunant a more interesting political place. Gallo Kunarian TALK 16:15, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * BTW I've simply written this up so that everything is understandable, mimicking your simplified way of putting it, it's like:
 * Users vote for the house, seats get distributed proportionally and people distribute and make congresspeople
 * Users vote for the senate, seats get awarded (to normally the larger parties, like your current system) and people distribute and make senators
 * So don't be fooled into thinking it's more complex. Gallo Kunarian TALK 16:20, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * That's a nice plan. Maybe the D'hondt system is best, as it is the most-understood method for vote distribution. You have my support to implement this, but do you think we should work with the election we had in April? To do so we would first need to:
 * Get users to divide their seats among the parties they want in order to see which are largest
 * Form a government coalition (for IC reasons, as all parties will have a role in the government)
 * Hold senate elections as you propose (we could even ride the election-fever wave in Lovia and bring people here)

Then again, many of the people who participated in the April elections are inactive. We could hold new ones in order to have more active congresspeople, but we would need to attract other users to the site. What do you think? HORTON11 : •  16:31, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm glad we're moving forwards. :) D'hondt it shall be then! (but that'll need to be put in as a general law not as part of the constitution as constitutions are more of a pointer than a detailed thing, except concerning the practice of government).
 * And maybe we should work with the April election, however it all depends on what kind of terming we are giving the legislative bodies, if we're doing two years then sure work with them for a little while longer then have the election next year for a new two year term and do the senate elections now for the new two year term. The way that'll work then will mean that you have one election per year, providing stability but also allowing for new users to have a go. Concerning activity, maybe we should even hold elections for the House at the same time as the new senate elections just to weed out the inactives and have that House around for a year then re-elect it for a new two year term.
 * Also I think riding election fever is a good idea, but I need to know what you think about the two year term before we continue. Gallo Kunarian TALK 16:48, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * The two years plan is good, so go with it. I'm personally more inclined to have both house and senate elections at the same time, and if you want to weed out inactives we could hold a midterm one in between. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:03, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, two years. Well I'd advise for separate elections, but it's your decision. Gallo Kunarian TALK 17:13, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I meant just holding them in the same time period, as you do in Sylvania with your state house and senate vote. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:17, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I understand, what I meant was having the senate elections one year and the house elections another, so that you have one election per year rather than two elections in one year then no elections the next year which might cause problems for new users if they arrive right after the big elections, they've got to wait ages until the next one. However as I say it's your choice, I'm just making the argument. Gallo Kunarian TALK 19:49, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I see. Well we could hold midterm elections in between as an alternative. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 20:09, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Mid-terms always just seem to be a case of making the elections every year but not calling it that. It'd depend what you mean, I think though of course we should add a clause in that allows for congress to have an election if too many people are inactive (well technically it can do that anyway, the Monarch (controlled by you I assume) can do it but the (currently drafted) constitution also states elections must then be held within three months so don't worry you won't be able to go crazy with that rule if you want the modern constitution to keep it ;) ). Gallo Kunarian TALK 20:26, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, lets scrap midterms. As our congress is in essence a parliament of sorts we do have no-confidence votes and the such. So, who not make an unofficial rule that governments should fall approx. every year or so. Elections would then be held to allow new users an opportunity in government and reduce the number of inactives. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 20:37, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well I had an idea, that would fit more in with British influence with a bit of random ideas busting. Treat every year as a session (a legislative year) of Congress, at the start of each session the government has to be 'verified' by a vote of all members. If a majority are in favour of the current government then no need for elections, if not then elections. Note: This would only affect the house as I think we should leave senate with its users.
 * BTW you do know that the law voting system under the currently drafted constitution acts against inactives, don't you? Gallo Kunarian TALK 21:10, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * We can do the British-style verification, it seems like the better solution. And I had no idea of the law against inactive. I'll have to take a look. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 21:17, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, glad to see. Yeah, in the one I'm currently drawing up there's a rule that stops them from hindering legislative progress, I'll explain it tomorrow, I need to sleep now. Gallo Kunarian TALK 21:23, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok. I should get to bed too. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 21:26, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

Politics
Hello! I was thinking of creating a character here in Brunant and maybe becoming active in politics sometime in the near future. So my question, how can I get into politics here in Brunant? Thank you :) Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 19:04, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well you can join one of the Political parties here and if you want you could become a parish governor, in charge of local affairs. We may hold a congressional election later on, depending on what me and kunarian end up discussing with the constitution being made. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 19:11, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Request for help
Hi Horton. I approved your request, and I'm here to help.

For the background, if you find either one large image (to be split into two halves) or two separate images (to be displayed on either side of the background) that you'd like to be used, please link me to them.

As for the main page, obviously I'll implement column tags so that the content properly "wraps around" the ad. As for the content of the page, did you want to keep everything that's currently there and just make it look better? For the headers, I could use a custom font that's similar to the one on the wiki's logo to give a more consistent appearance. Let me know any details you have in mind, and I'll get started soon. JoePlay http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/joeplayground/images/a/a5/WikiaStaff2.png (talk)  22:51, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll try and find nice enough pictures for the background for you to use. As for the main page, we could add the font if you can find it, that'd be great. I'll probably change the color on the main page to match the blue used on the top links header. HORTON11 : •  13:33, October 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * I've created Template:Heading using a Google font similar to the logo's font, and using the shade of blue used on the navigation menu. To use the template to create a heading, simply enter and replace Title with the title of the section. Here's an example:


 * JoePlay http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/joeplayground/images/a/a5/WikiaStaff2.png (talk)  16:37, October 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * I went ahead with setting up the column tags on the main page, so take a look when you get a chance. Feel free to rearrange sections as needed. JoePlay http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/joeplayground/images/a/a5/WikiaStaff2.png (talk)  16:52, October 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Great, that really is nice. I might just add a create an article creator box to go above the "About Brunant" section. And one more question, could the main page have a more transparent background compared to other pages if we added an image? The only similar thing I could do was using this:

, but the image does not remain fixed. HORTON11 : •  17:19, October 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * Using some CSS, I was able to make that be the background image of the main page. The image that's being used (direct link) is set to 20% opacity instead of 30%, as the 30% version was making the text a bit hard to read. JoePlay http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/joeplayground/images/a/a5/WikiaStaff2.png (talk)  20:52, October 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * The opacity for an image being used as a background image must be done manually with image editing software, such as Photoshop (paid) or GIMP (free), before uploading the image.  doesn't work because it's not a valid CSS property. If you want to use the Donderstad image, I uploaded a 20% opacity version of it here. JoePlay http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/joeplayground/images/a/a5/WikiaStaff2.png  (talk)  16:12, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

Hello
Hello there! I am actually thinking of creating my one wikination, so I need some "practise". Is there any needed page you want me to create??Jōji (talk) 19:13, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hi and welcome. Feel free to work on anything you like, from history to politics and culture. If you'd like something more specific to do, it would be great if you could help us out with our national parks (they can be found here: Department of Parks and Monuments). HORTON11 : •  19:54, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I was wondering if maybe you could help me with my banknotes for Kobidar. Thanks Ethandabomb (talk) 21:22, October 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * Don't know what that is, sorry. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 21:25, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, are you still going to update the Total Football website? 77topaz (talk) 21:29, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Hm, don't the articles get dates anymore? And will you add something about Sunday's matches once they're done? 77topaz (talk) 02:08, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Did they get dates beofre? We;; I don't even add dates for the Cape TImes, so it shouldn't be a problem. HORTON11 : •  15:37, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

Are you going to make a Total Football article about the latest Johan II Cup matchday? 77topaz (talk) 02:54, October 31, 2013 (UTC)


 * I might just wait for the knockout rounds to make cup reports, though I'm thinking of making a sort of preview at the end of the group stage. And I was also thinking, since some of those reports are really bland, perhaps I might go with adding matchday previews on occasion. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:47, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you going to add an article for this (league) matchday? 77topaz (talk) 07:55, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Music
Horton, I'm going to start work on the benefit CD. Could it be released the Monday after the event? Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 22:21, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

"Kyto" worked. :P 77topaz (talk) 11:00, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Also. 77topaz (talk) 11:12, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

@ Marcel- Great, Monday would be fine.

@Topaz- I'll take a look. HORTON11 : •  15:56, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Football!
Hi Horton, how do you make the football team logos for the Brunanter and Kemburger leagues? I was planning on making some for the Prasian First Division and I was wondering how I could do so :) Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 17:41, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Some are just based on real ones which I modified and others are just my creations using images from google. It's all made on paint. HORTON11 : •  17:44, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you :) Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 17:46, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Okay. I wanted to ask that to but It is still dificult to have some good logos. Wabba The I (talk) 18:02, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

yes, you either need a good program like photoshop or be skilled in operating paint, which I am. HORTON11 : •  18:05, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

4kant blocked Frijoles just for saying that Ndengu is alive. :P 77topaz (talk) 08:18, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

I did a new calculation for the WNFA rankings at their website. Can you check it please? Wabba The I (talk) 12:28, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Do you think this would be a good portrait photo of Ndengu (for an eventual article about him or OEaEfT or something like that)? (You'd have to edit the lapel flag, though) 77topaz (talk) 04:47, November 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * It's good. I can add the little flag if you want too. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:59, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks! (Though, the perspective on the flag does look a little strange) 77topaz (talk) 19:11, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a different angle. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 19:17, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's what makes it look slightly strange, though it might not be noticeable zoomed-out. 77topaz (talk) 20:02, November 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * You have to take a look on the WNFA wikia because I did my calculations on the rankings. Please check it. Wabba The I (talk) 19:52, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not yet, Wabba, we still need more discussion and it would be implemented for next year. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 19:57, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

4kant found out it was Frijoles who posted the letter. Also, I'm not completely sure what Happy is trying to do here. 77topaz (talk) 20:07, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Something else to mention to Wikia is how 4kant often edits the "constitution" (site results) immediately to "justify" actions (blocking, locking etc.) he has just committed or is about to commit. 77topaz (talk) 23:00, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hi
Hi Horton, I saw that there is now a Traspes embassy in Koningstad, so can I build a Prasian one please? Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 14:14, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

I think he built it on his own. Both traspes and Prasia should be developed more before we go ahead and do that. HORTON11 : •  15:18, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

So, do you have anything revolved around the 18th century you want me to do? Anything about Dutch guys living in the 18th century who had shady backgrounds and awesome futures is my thing!

Suite6677 (talk) 19:13, December 7, 2013 (UTC)That Newbie Who Knows Nothing

Notice
(In case you don't see it at Lovia) I will be without Internet access from roughly the 10th to 15th December and will be unable to respond to messages etc. during this period. 77topaz (talk) 19:07, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Ok. HORTON11 : •  19:09, December 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * I return! 77topaz (talk) 02:33, December 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, on another note: the Tagog situation seems to be fading from the public eye, and we haven't even done the speeches for OEaEfT (though 4kant et al haven't released statements or done anything controversial lately; there haven't been any recent edits at the Tagog or Chvarqvia wikis as far as I can see). 77topaz (talk) 07:53, December 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's faded completely, though Tagog has gon inactive at all. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 16:27, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

Hi Horton. Long time no see. I was just meaning to tell you that I may occasionally drop in and do some editing if I have some free time. Thanks,

Ethandabomb (talk) 01:39, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

Great. We could always use more help for our basketball and other things. HORTON11 : •  16:42, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I saw your football uniforms and was wondering what resource you used, and if there was any sort for basketball. Ethandabomb (talk) 22:39, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

I just used paint and used shirt pictures to base them on. If you want I could make some. A few of the logos might need to be changed to be better looking. HORTON11 : •  16:09, December 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hey
Hey, still online? Happy65 20:01, January 1, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, Horton, I have an idea that could make for a bunch of articles. It's about a Brunanter footballer during the 1980's or so, who plays very well and becomes famous, but makes a lot of enemies with gambling syndicates, fellow players and rival fans, and is assassinated/killed because of those factors. 77topaz (talk) 00:59, January 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * This could be an interesting idea. Especially if he was involved in illegal gambling/activities. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 20:23, January 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. He may have taken bribes from mob-related gambling groups, but then played normally, angering the gambling syndicates that way. 77topaz (talk) 20:49, January 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * So, what do you think? 77topaz (talk) 20:18, January 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * I created the article Hendrikstad FC as the first part of this "group". 77topaz (talk) 09:35, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

Oh, and, also, something seems to have become a little muddled-up in the transition of seasons in SM. All the stats from Season 13 are there, but Season 14 seems to have gone completely "missing". 77topaz (talk) 04:29, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

It's fixed now, I think. HORTON11 : •  20:23, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to be for me. For example, the player "career statistics" pages all skip from Season 13 to Season 15. 77topaz (talk) 20:59, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

I noticed, it seems highly suspect. HORTON11 : •  14:28, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

I can see my Season 13 schedule, but the Season 14 one just shows as being completely blank. Does something like that usually happen in season transitions? 77topaz (talk) 20:18, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

The SM situation seems to have changed again. Now I can only see seasons 14 & 15, but nothing older. 77topaz (talk) 09:34, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

That really is strange. HORTON11 : •  14:22, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

Hey Horton, I know this may sound really greedy or really dumb in general, but I'm making a page about this guy named Joshua Glasgow. And in the article, he is one of the main starters of this war called the 2nd Brunanter War of Brunant. And once I'm with Glasgow's independent article, would you mind giving me a hand in creating the battles and some tiny bits of information of the war while I give all the extremely important information? And don't worry, I'll hook you up with the article to get introduced to the character and the setting :).

Suite6677 (talk) 01:57, January 24, 2014 (UTC)That Guy Who Knows Nothing

Also, I'm TERRIBLE at making the battles. I can make some names for the war, but that's about it, really.

You know what? Forget what I just said.

Suite6677 (talk) 01:59, January 24, 2014 (UTC)TGWNW

Well if you're interested on working on a war it's best not to create a new one and just work with the ones we already have. HORTON11 : •  14:57, January 24, 2014 (UTC)

Marriages and royal babies
Have I missed anything? And, shouldn't we be doing some updating? ;) King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 14:12, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

Well it's nearly a year after the birth of their first child, so maybe a second one on the way would be good. HORTON11 : •  14:18, January 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * I say it's about bloody time! ;) And in Lovia we just had little Prince Arthur. As you can see in the pub! ;) King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 14:51, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

Hey
Welcome back, hope you're enjoying life in Spain. Since it's deadline day, I hope you don't mind coming to chat? Thanks. Happy65 16:04, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

The International Team
Battery concentrate on signing international players, and have the likes of Stefan El-Zein and Martin Visser.

Chat
Hey Horton,

Please come on chat. Feel free to invite Wabba :P

Thanks. Happy65 20:47, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

Hey
Someone uploaded some images based around a political party named the "Belize Green Party" or something. As these are not related to Brunant, or other wikinations, I'd like to suggest them for deletion. Special:Log/upload (those four pictures at the top) are the ones. Happy65 13:09, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Done. HORTON11 : •  14:07, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Horton,

Are you on chat? I'm on atm, but I might leave soon. Peter Wostor (user) 15:04, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

I believe you are not done. There's still a guy from Belize at the top, who's the current leader of the party. I doubt it is for use of this wiki, and is yet to be used on a page. Peter Wostor (user) 15:06, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Chat works
Chat works. Peter Wostor (user) 20:02, March 24, 2014 (UTC)

come back
Come back Horton? Peter Wostor (user) 20:21, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

come back
Hey. Please come back. Peter Wostor (user) 17:08, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

Come back
HORTON! Peter Wostor (user) 18:55, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

chat
Come please. Peter Wostor (user) 17:11, April 14, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks.  Nick  Talk  17:26, April 14, 2014 (UTC)

Hey Horton
I think it's best for Brunant to soon opt out of the IWO. It may not be the best move yet, because new recruits are likely to see and join Brunant if it's on the list in Lovia.  Nick  Talk  10:20, April 15, 2014 (UTC)

Hey
Lovia is dying out so fast (5 days without an edit!). Brunant is becoming the largest wikination, so I'd like to congratulate you on that.  Nick  Talk  11:26, April 17, 2014 (UTC)

Hey.
Happy Easter :)  Nick  Talk  20:16, April 20, 2014 (UTC)

Same to you. HORTON11 : •  20:18, April 20, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, there?
Hey. Wondering if you're on. Come on chat if you are. Thanks. :)  Nick  Talk  13:05, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I'm back. HORTON11 : •  13:44, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Hey. I came back from vacation, and managed an edit, however I've been quite busy.  Nick  Talk  06:51, June 3, 2014 (UTC)

Ok. I haven't gone on vacation yet cause we might just stay at home. HORTON11 : •  13:40, June 3, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, I'm back.

That Newbie Who Knows Nothing (talk) 05:59, June 25, 2014 (UTC)TNWKN