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Should we once apply for spotlight? 09:48, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Pierlot, maybe you should check. MediaWiki:Community-corner has not even been edited once, so no the spotlight would fail. --Jt 16:02, December 29, 2011 (UTC)
Should we make it a news thingy, or a featured article box? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:32, December 29, 2011 (UTC)
News makes more sense. --Jt 17:25, December 29, 2011 (UTC)
Once we get a few more users, maybe we could hold elections. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:42, December 29, 2011 (UTC)
Not with user controlled characters. {{SUBST:User:Pierlot/HT}} 15:46, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Featured Article Edit

Which Featured Article should we feature on the home page, first?

And any other suggestions for or concerning featured articles? Nar Echocho 17:24, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Of those listed, perhaps the Ambroos I page. There is already a basis for the FA summary in the first paragraph that can be expanded. What would you think we should use? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 18:03, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Sure, Ambroos I is a fine choice. Nar Echocho 16:01, May 25, 2012 (UTC)


Can I edit year pages! I will focus me on that project! Wabba The I 15:48, July 1, 2012

That would be a huge task to do, as recorded history stretches back to 535 AD. That is nearly 1500 years and it would become a mess. Alternately there is the Timeline of Brunanter History which has events for the years. I would appreciate if you could help out with that, since there are lots of events to be filled in. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:38, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Whatever you decide to do, Wabba, I'm sure you'll be very diligent at it :). Nar Echocho 16:52, June 1, 2012 (UTC)
Horton11, you have right! Echocho, look on Wikistad! That is one big mess! Wabba The I 09:58, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry to say it is a mess, Wabba, and because I could do very little about it (no buro rights or anything like that), I've abandoned it. Still, I had a great time on the wiki and am proud of some of the things we did there. I still enjoy 'going back' from time to time, who knows, maybe one day it 'll be brought back to life properly. Nar Echocho 10:15, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

Why not have pages for each century until, suppose, 1800, and just decade pages until perhaps 1910. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 15:00, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Interwiki Mäöres ( Edit

I requested opening an interwiki between Mäöres and Brunant:

«On there is an interwiki car: leading to Could this interwiki be creating on as well? And vice versa, so that li: on links to»

--OuWTBsjrief-mich 16:23, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

That would be good. But we should also try and establish more links between the two nations. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:29, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Sure, that's why we need the interwiki and a new supranational wiki organization :) --OuWTBsjrief-mich 16:53, June 13, 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps if we had university/cultural exchanges, town twinning, etc. We could also bring companies over, like the Mertegos could be joined with Maxi and other Mäöreser companies could come here. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me
Sure. It would be especially nice if a Brunanter University could create a department in Mäöres as we don't really have a university :P --OuWTBsjrief-mich 17:11, June 13, 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps the RUK can open a campus in Saenteim. You'll have to help me on the Limburgish, though. And i'm sure that Mäöres can make use of Maxi, especially with the combined fuel/bank services. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:18, June 13, 2012 (UTC)
No problem, I tend to think most English natives don't speak Limburgish, so I quite expected that :P
I don't know whether the bank service is possible with current regulations, but the fuel service is very welcome, as we don't have any fuel suppliers :P I'm sure we can "bend the law" to a certain degree that Maxi can open banks in Mäöres. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 17:21, June 13, 2012 (UTC)
The bank isn't really necessary, but perhaps an international points card, that will allow Lovian, Brunanter and Mäöreser Maxi shoppers to use in all 3 countries. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:32, June 13, 2012 (UTC)
Great ideas, guys! And yeah, I find it harder to 'work' with Mäöres as well, simply because of the language. But perhaps I could have a movie or something filmed there(?). Is it open to business like that? Nar Echocho 19:48, June 13, 2012 (UTC)
Yeas, Limburgisch is too hard to learn, in my opinion. Also, do you think a bilingual wiki could work? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 19:54, June 13, 2012 (UTC)
You mean having articles in both English and Dutch, or choosing one of those when writing an article? Nar Echocho 19:59, June 13, 2012 (UTC)
I was thinking more like a mirroring of edits from one langage to another. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 20:05, June 13, 2012 (UTC)
@Echocho: I don't really get what kind of film you mean, but Mäöres is indeed open to businesses from other nations :)
@Horton: Bilingual wikis don't work, we've tried it in the past. It means everything has to be written twice and eventually one part of the community gives up because they feel mistreated. See: Libertas. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 16:38, June 14, 2012 (UTC)
Is there no system to automatically translate pages? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:46, June 14, 2012 (UTC)
A fiction film, Oos, something co-produced with one of 'our' studios, Europa, Liberal Arts or Studio 5. Horton, writing everything twice takes up a lot of energy and time that could be used on other articles. But perhaps we could allow users who want to, to write articles in Dutch? Without any rules about having to translate it as well (or maybe just a one or two lines at the top of the page, a summary)? That way we might attract users who don't feel confident enough in English and would otherwise use Libertas? Nar Echocho 17:00, June 14, 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps. Someone like Wabba might benefit from this. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:20, June 14, 2012 (UTC)
@Echocho: Ow :P Yes, that's possible. If you have anything "in stock", you can share it :) --OuWTBsjrief-mich 20:12, June 14, 2012 (UTC)
@Horton: An automatical translator for Limburgish does not exist. Dutch to English and vice versa sucks :P --OuWTBsjrief-mich 20:12, June 14, 2012 (UTC)
@general: If you don't translate something, it gets messy. You should have one language in which everything is written. Imagine having a Dutch page that says "vijftien mensen stierven door de wervelwind op 3 mei" and another page saying "there have never been any tornadoes in the country". It's risky and to be honest, I doubt it is going to add any value. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 20:12, June 14, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm, I don't like to admit it, but good point, Oos :d. Unless... you have someone bilingual, like me, moderating to prevent stuff like that, just 'typing' out loud. Nar Echocho 20:33, June 14, 2012 (UTC)
Imagine you become inactive and nobody can replace you :P What you are doing, in fact, is translating the articles to English anyway (albeit summarized or only in your head) :P --OuWTBsjrief-mich 20:53, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

Interwiki sv.wikination Edit

I propose to create an interwiki to and from Inselöarna. I don't think there are any objections? --OuWTBsjrief-mich 08:05, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

None whatsoever. But we should have one withg Lovia too. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:37, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

That can be done as well. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 14:57, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
Great. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:01, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
I've just sent the request, so hopefully everything's set within a week time :) --OuWTBsjrief-mich 16:31, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good. And don't forget the interwikis with Mäöres. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 23:29, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

There's a wiki at too, though, and that isn't Inseloarna. Is that affiliated with the UWN wikis (Lovia, Brunant, Inseloarna, Maores etc.)? 77topaz (talk) 02:47, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

No, it was a vague idea of mine, but it never got active. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 12:06, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
It seems like now everyone is making a wikination, but very few actually succeed. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 12:13, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
Well, if you're working on a wiki all alone, in most cases, you'll get bored pretty soon :P --OuWTBsjrief-mich 14:52, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

I don't like the URL of Insel Islands. Why not ask Wikia for a move to inselö Or perhaps I'll consult 4kant,6 about that. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 13:38, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

TM, ö is not possible in I think. I've never seen it. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 19:15, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
Just checked it on [1]: The name cannot contain special characters (like $ or @) and must be a single lower-case word without spaces. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 19:16, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
Anyway, you can use sv:test now, which is even shorter. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 19:16, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
Mmm.. Doesn't seem to work, perhaps the server is working slow again. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 19:17, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
Sometimes wikia can get really slow. Maybe b tomorrow it should be fixed. Also, maybe we should revive a few of the better wikinations. There are so many around but after a while people just give up on them. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 20:13, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
I think our community is too small. We should stay fixed to the few active wikis right now. Otherwise we risk ending up with even more inactive wikis :( --OuWTBsjrief-mich 16:25, September 1, 2012 (UTC)
You're right. I think with closer cooperation from the IWO we should be able to have better interwiki links. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:54, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

2012 Election Plan Edit

In Brunant, we are having elections in 2012, and not again until 2016. So we should make these very good. According to my proposed Constitution, this is how they might work:

As far as I know, we are going to have separate elections for the House, Senate, and Presidency. For the House elections, according to the Constitution, lists are proposed for each parish. The seats are divided into parishes. The amount of seats (out of 200) allocated to each parish can be found at Elections in Brunant. To simplify this, I think that we should do a national election, and then divide the elected representatives into each of the parish seats. For Senate and Gubernatorial elections, the Constitution says to use Alternative Vote to elect one for each parish. That might be able to be done that way, although it might be challenging to get it all done for twelve parishes, as we don't have many active users. Presidential elections also use Alternative Vote, so that should be easy enough. Just have each party post a candidate and we can have every voter make a preferential ballot. I'll do all the calculations. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 14:59, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Thoughts? TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 01:31, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

It seems good, but do you think it is possible to do such complex elections with few users here? What I was thinking (since PR elections are complicated) is to just do a fptp vote for president and senators. Then, the proportion of votes a party gets in the senate is translated to the house (users should have a nco like in Lovia). HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 12:14, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

However, Senators are per-parish. Maybe we could choose experienced users every year and make up the election? Also, it's not that hard to do an IRV vote. For example: Say there are seven candidates, a communist, a social democrat, a green, a centrist, a christian democrat, a libertarian, and a fascist. You order as many candidates as you want in a ballot.

For the best example, Yuri would write:

1. Communist
2. Social Democrat
3. Green

That's it. Note that not all seven candidates are ordered. The candidates are then ordered by number of votes. If a candidate has a majority of votes, they win. If not, elimination begins. Say that the communist had the least votes of all. The votes of that candidate are eliminated, and redistributed according to all the second choices of the voters, most of them to the social democrat. If there is no second choice, the ballot is exhausted. Eliminate, redistribute/exhausted, repeat until a candidate has a majority of votes or there are only two candidates remaining, in which case the candidate with the most votes wins. Might seem complicated, but all you have to do is post a ballot with as many candidates as you want in choice order. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 12:27, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

Note that in the senate there may be more than 1 person in the same party running, so how would you account for that? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:00, August 28, 2012 (UTC)
Usually that does not happen, but if it does, they are given the same treatment, with vote redistribution, etc. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 13:25, August 28, 2012 (UTC)
So do you mean having separate elections for each of the parishes? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 14:14, August 28, 2012 (UTC)
We don't have enough people for that, so I was thinking of hand-picking them according to the House results. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 15:21, August 28, 2012 (UTC)
Isn't it better to have a Lovia-style election for the senate, where the top 12 candidates are given senate seats? That way thee could be more than 1 senator from a party and house seats are redistributed as in Lovia. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 15:26, August 28, 2012 (UTC)
Interesting idea, but I don't think that we will have enough candidates. Also, for the house elections: A list of candidates is posted by each party, and you pick the candidates off that list. Then a PR system is used to make the house. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 17:27, August 28, 2012 (UTC)


  1. In the article about Brunant it is referred that 95% of the inhabitants are Christians. I believe that it is far too high; I suggest making it 80-85% to make more realistic.
  2. I think it's alittle stupid to have Brunant a member of EU, as the Euro coins connote

--George the Greek (talk) 13:11, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

The Religion section in the demographics page gives better data, so that 95% will need to be removed. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 14:54, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Remove the Euro. Britain is happy that it did not decide to use it. Happy65 16:55, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

The European Union is progress, albeit small, on ending nationalism and merging Earth into one nation state of cooperation. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 18:36, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

I'm more of a localist/regionalist myself. If returning to the Thaler secures our monetary and financial future more so than sticking with the Euro will, then I'm all for it. Internationalism shouldn't enter into the debate. Matt (talk) 21:58, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

TM's OppositionEdit

  • In character interactions and "characters" of users.
  • Formal voting in the Senate/house.
  • Interactive maps in settlements.
  • Ownership of pages. Pages should be communal.

I really want us to try a different, non-interactive approach. Where people work together out of character to make in character things without actually acting in character. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 18:36, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

I like the characters, because you can have fun and do anything that you like. And alsoin Lovia they use caracters. Granero (talk) 02:17, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

You can have even more fun and do anything you like when you aren't restricted by your characters. I know in Lovia they use characters, but we should try not having them here. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 23:12, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps some people have charcters which are the same as their own IRL character :P --OuWTBsjrief-mich 04:23, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Music Contest Edit

Horton had the idea of a Brunanter song contest. I was thinking of a music competition held in Koningstad (perhaps not every two years or something), from which new talents would evolve. What's your opinion??--George the Greek (talk) 18:14, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

SO would it be more like an American Idol or Britain's Got Talent thing? And would you want to make it into a show? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 18:30, December 15, 2012 (UTC)
Bad idea, I think! Sorry. Wabba The I (talk) 18:44, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

No, not a TV show. Please read these two articles: Live and Unsigned/Open Mic UK.--George the Greek (talk) 13:03, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

That's a good idea, but wouldn't TV help promote the contest more? Well if you don't want a full-blown show, you could do like a video for the best acts on the show, or have just someting shown online. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:08, December 16, 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps only the final concert in Koningstadion.--George the Greek (talk) 00:02, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

a national parks idea Edit

I have an idea of a national part that we can do, all underwater. It can be called Shipwreck National Park and there can be sunken ships of the romans, arabians, medievals and from the World Wars. And there will be corals and lost of wildlives. Granero (talk) 03:01, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, good. Wabba The I (talk) 07:39, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
Yep. chat, wabba Happy65 07:40, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
That would be a great idea. And shipwreck has a w in there. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 14:31, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
You should go ahead with this. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:14, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
I can do it tomorow, tonight it's late. Granero (talk) 03:35, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Redesigning the thaler Edit

Seeing as there is significant support to bring back the thaler, maybe we should think about redesigning it. There are several sites and projects focused on redesigning the national currency (Sweden just had one and there's also this:, so it would be nice if other could propose their own ideas for a new thaler. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 15:59, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Also, specifications for the note will be "Brunants Centralbank" (Country and Bank name), denomination (number and written out in Dutch/English), date, serial no. and president's signature. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 18:53, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

My idea is going on a simple and modern design and using important modern figures (ie. the past 150 years) who have contrbuted to music, the arts, politics. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me16:13, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

5 thaler new
Looks awesome. Happy65 18:33, December 27, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. Do you have any ideas? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 18:53, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Here are some of the other notes in this series. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:16, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Great! Happy65 17:42, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, but I just wish others would enter design ideas to make this a real contest. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:55, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
I would if I had a suitable paint program for designing currency. Happy65 08:33, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
I did all this using paint. But if I had photoshop, our currency would look infinitely better. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 15:39, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
Looks great, Horton, and I love the fact that Brunant would have a classic actor on a note! :D Echocho 09:50, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

de Bryas

This is another idea I had, but I'd probably go with more historic figures. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:20, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

Prison Edit

There is currently no prison in Brunant.--George the Greek (talk) 00:32, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Interesting. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 03:36, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

We could use one, but maybe it's better to move this discussion to Our Pub. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:21, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

AFC Awards Edit

It's time for us to start the selection of players and managers for the league awards, to be held in June 2013. The awards for best player, youth, keeper and manager will be determined by... (how should we go about doing this)? The "best performance" award will be determined through fan voting. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 15:52, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

Player of the yearEdit

This award is given out to the player with the best overall performance in the season. 10 players will be on the shortlist and there will be three finalists.

Best goalkeeperEdit

This award is given out to the goalkeeper with the best overall performance in the season. 5 players will be on the shortlist and there will be three finalists.

Young player of the yearEdit

This award is given out to the player with the best overall performance in the season. 5 players will be on the shortlist and there will be three finalists.

Best managerEdit

Unlike the player awards, this is given out for performances in both the league and cup. Five managers will be selected and the winner will be chosen for his leadership, skill and team performance.

Individual performanceEdit

This award is given out for the best individual performance by a player in a league or cup match.

Please do not vote until we have all the nominees!!!

The poll was created at 16:58 on January 8, 2013, and so far 5 people voted.


Voting for the best player, coach, keeper and youth will be done by voting from four media groups: The Daily Post, De Waarheid, Total Football and Salmon Brunant Post. The 26 teams (captains) will also vote. IRL we well need to divide these 30 votes between anyone interested in voting. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:34, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

When are we going to hold the voting for this? 77topaz (talk) 06:10, May 24, 2013 (UTC)


I was thinking of a (high security) prison in northern Hogeberg Island, far enough from every settlement, as well as another prison (low security) in a town or city.--George the Greek (talk) 11:15, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

This would be a good idea, since none of the prisons we have now are of any major use (unless you want to send hardened criminals to Mermaid Island). And a prison somewhere in Central Parish would be much further away from settlements, perhaps even in the mountains. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 15:32, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
We could pretend a tiny island exists that is not on any map like mermaid island and use it for a prison. Happy65 16:36, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
I like your idea.--George the Greek (talk) 16:39, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
My idea was from what the americans did with Alcatraz Island. Happy65 16:41, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
We could make a small island in a harbor or bay like Roodstad. We could also put them in a prison-fortress of sorts in the Central Ranges

Dârtsekroeansstried 2013 Edit

Registrating for the Dârtsekroeansstried 2013 is now open. This international darts competition will be held in Mäöres. All wikinations may send in their best darters to compete in the Dârtsekroeansstried 2013. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 12:46, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but we don't have any darters :( HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:37, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
I'd consider that a reason to create them :P --OuWTBsjrief-mich 19:43, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
Maybe you could make one? Cause I have no idea how darts goes (usually I'm only good at team sports). HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 19:57, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
Well, basically all you need to create is a page about some (often fat :P) guy with his birthplace and date, and perhaps a picture :P --OuWTBsjrief-mich 19:59, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
Like one of those guys that spends his days in a bar? Well give me a name suggestion and I'll make a page. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 20:05, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
That's the idea :P Perhaps something like Henk Sanders? --OuWTBsjrief-mich 20:11, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
Great, Henk Sanders it is, then. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 20:14, January 15, 2013 (UTC)





Hiyah! My video! Wabba The I (talk) 18:18, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Did you know ... Edit

Can you do something with this? --Wabba The I (talk) 16:30, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Yes. I can. Happy65 16:33, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

We could do a records book. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:34, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Greatest Brunanter Edit

Should we do like a poll for the Greatest Brunanter person? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 19:45, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah! Wabba The I (talk) 16:45, February 12, 2013 (UTC)
Now who do you suggest. One that comes to mind is King Ambroos I: statesman, father of the laws and creator of our national anthem. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:51, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

2013 ElectionsEdit

I remember somebody (Horton, I think) a couple weeks ago in chat who was talking about possible elections this year. Our last vote was in 2009, so if we stay on the four-year cycle we're due for another round. Are there formal plans in place for this, or was somebody just throwing around ideas?

Matt (talk) 21:25, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Elections will take place this year but we need to find a good way to hold them. What I was thinking, we hold a vote among users (like in Lovia or similar) and then we get the percentage of each user's votes and divide it up to get the house seats; users can then divide up their seats between their party or parties. We can then use the proportion of house seats/party to give out seats in the senate. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 21:47, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

That sounds good. This needs to be scheduled well in advance so that everybody can be present and voting. We need to choose a random date(s) this spring/summer and stick to it, and hold the election on that date from here on out. Anybody have a good day in mind? Maybe a Brunanter holiday or something?

  • Maybe on Independence Day? Nice and symbolic.

Matt (talk) 21:59, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

I guess we could, or how about the day before, cause most people would be out drinking on the 13th. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 22:05, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Haha true. The day before sounds good.

Matt (talk) 22:07, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Good, I want to be in the elections so vote for the Socilalist Left Party.MMunson (talk) 02:38, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

So is it official then? Should we create a 2013 Elections page? Matt (talk) 21:51, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

"Parliamentary election, 2013" is probably a better title, since there are both presidential and parliamentary elections and other election pages are "styled" that way. 77topaz (talk) 09:27, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

The nme should be 2013 General Elections, considering the previous ones followed the same style. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:45, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Hang on, then what is Parliamentary election, 2008? 77topaz (talk) 19:06, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, that's something Timemaster made but it's not official. I'll just move it to his userspace. 2008 was a Presidential Election year. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 19:24, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think we should have elections this year, as I think we should have had the elections in 2008, not 2009. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 02:12, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

2008 was Presidential election year. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:44, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Campaigns Edit

Dose anyone have ideas for a campaign or posters for the elections?MMunson-talk (Vote SLP) 04:26, March 7, 2013 (UTC)


Given that we don't have all the candidates/parties, here is a very general poll (I'll add some more specific ones later on). HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 14:06, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

How are you most likely to vote in the elections?

The poll was created at 14:06 on March 7, 2013, and so far 7 people voted.

Vote SDP! Edit

Sdp campaign

Vote now! HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 20:30, March 8, 2013 (UTC)

A few days away from your say. Edit

Yes, you cannot believe it. It's time for the elections AGAIN. This time, I'm campaigning with GP. Why? Because you can get up of your seat, go to the ballot, and feel the freedom. The freedom you get when you don't look in your mailbox and see tax bills rising, when politicians aren't getting richer and the freedom of when politicians and businessman are NOT living in massive palaces whilst people are living on the streets. The GP makes sure you get low taxes, and you can live in peace and harmony. 

We care for all the people of the nation. The enviroment. The scenes. The people. The nation. Vote GP! Happy65 18:46, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

James Stanton's political campaingEdit

you can find it here


Hey, if everyone could please read User:TimeMaster/Constitution and post their thoughts here, that would be good.

The plan for implementation is as follows (modified from a chat log): "The constitution of 1802 will be royalist and become a little more liberal in 1852. Then the stereotypical draconian king comes along and tries to make the country an absolute monarchy. This is followed by the liberal revolution, which rolled backed what the king did. The 1852 constitution is restored. The 1882 congress is elected to make a new constitution This resulted in the constitution of 1884, with the first elections for new president and congress late in the year. There is a shorter term of the president to make him serve the people more. This is followed by standard 4 year elections for president and variable elections for house and senate. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 18:20, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

=( TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 01:14, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Do you wanna reamke all the history that was done beoffre?MMunson-talk (Vote SLP) 01:52, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

The elections? Mostly. The overall political system will be similar, though I think the Communist Front PMship and Presidency will be delayed until the thirties or removed altogether as there was not enough despair to lead to it. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 02:02, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

I can help you todo it, but keep the Communists to the ealy 1920's.MMunson-talk (Vote SLP) 02:07, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

No, there isn't enough to reason to have them in power, though they will still be a major party in Congress at the time. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 10:59, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

We should have them in power for at least one term (though the presidency can be removed). HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:05, April 17, 2013 (UTC)
I really don't think so -- the people would prefer a more moderate Socialist than a Communist. Though, the Communists will have ministers in a leftist government alongside Socialists and maybe others. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 20:47, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Worrying news from Lovia Edit

Ygo August Donia (User:The Master's Voice) is threatened to launch a military attack on Noble City with the aid of his "Brigade" of hunters, with the intent of launching a coup against King Dimitri I and taking the throne for himself, unless Dimitri abdicates before then, which is unlikely considering his OOC inactivity. How should we react to this? 77topaz (talk) 11:39, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

THB nothing, he does this for attention and to "mix things up". Nothing, or if something comes to it he will be killed and his army as well. Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:10, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

If the situation does get bad, we should probably back the government. For now we should'nt get involved. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 18:42, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

We should condemn the (attempted) coup. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 18:50, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but we should be careful, as Tagog and Burenia are both backing the coup it seems, and we don't want to risk an invasion. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 20:27, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah but Strasland can also help, our army is small but irt's trained well.MMunson-talk (Vote SLP) 20:55, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
The governments of Tagog and Burenia haven't actually made any statements regarding the coup yet as far as I'm aware; Donia only contacted them. Plus, at least one provincial governor in Burenia (Semyon) will aid any opponents of the central Burenian regime. 77topaz (talk) 21:01, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
We could battle with Libertas, Brunant, Strasland and Lovia against Tagog, Burenia and the Brigade. Wabba The I (talk) 16:14, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
@Wabba- this should only be a last resort; we should not be the ones escalating the conflict.
@Topaz- Donia has given his support to Tagog: "In exchange for his support I'll support him. I will need as many people as possible to declare their support for my kingship. I shall send weapons and money, be the finance guy. Smuggle it in if I have to. It'll be to our mutual benefit." HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 18:38, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
I was referring to the absence of statements in response to Donia, not the statements by Donia. And Donia seems to be willing to support either side in the Tagog conflict, depending on which supports him more in Lovia. 77topaz (talk) 12:37, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
Oos seems to support him, and Donia seems to be set on supporting the regime. And it may be to our advantage. Distance yourself from him (as the opposition) and if he does stick with Tagog's government, in Lovia I'm sure pro-government people would further want to oppose Tagog's dictator. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 15:34, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

But just fir fun Wabba, do you think you could draw up a plan showing our nations' military strength. Maybe our combined figures may be enough to scare off Burenia and Tagog from invading Lovia. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 18:46, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

If we nood to create a page IWO Civil War on Wikination, I will help with the "good" troops from Libertas and Brunant and Strasland and Lovia. Libertas has a strong army. Wabba The I (talk) 14:02, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
We don't know if Lovia is willing to commit yet, but since it's getting invaded we should (from a Lovian standpoint) be the first to stand up. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 15:34, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

Looks like Donia is still committed to his "coup". Not sure how he intends to "take" the "crown" from Dimi (who, after all, is the founder of the wiki and has the associated powers), but if we're going to do anything, we should do it very soon. 77topaz (talk) 21:24, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

King Oscar of Strasland (me) can give support t King Dimitri and Lovia.MMunson-talk (Vote SLP) 22:08, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

Come fight me and die. I am marching on to Noble City as we speak. 61 Brigadiers counting me, a dozen or so men in the Capital plus some supporters living there. Possibly some support from Burenia and the help of a warlord from Tagog. The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 22:41, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
We have 865 solders in the Coastal infantry in Strasland, and 900 in the navy.MMunson-talk (Vote SLP) 02:38, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
So? Burenia, The Brigade and Tagog against Strasland, Libertas, Brunant and Lovia? Wabba The I (talk) 11:16, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
There's no need for the saber-rattling. We should do everything possible to avoid war, even you, Mr. Donia. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:36, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
I'm afraid it's far too late now... The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 14:03, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
You could still be the better man and end the fighting. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 14:17, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
 :Too late. And Dimitri should be the better man and step down, ending the bloodshed. But he finds his position more important then the lives of his citizens! The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 14:25, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
Do you even think he knows this is going on? Sometimes he goes months without visiting the site. Maybe it is time he steps down, but we could just make the next guy in line King and keep them a non-user character. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 14:28, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
 ::I will be the new King. Or we can make Bernd the new King as a non-user character but the current Lovian family and all it's hidden political power has to go. And will go. The battle is still ongoing as we speak. The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 18:03, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
Shouldn't you wait until after a referendum? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 18:28, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
 :::There is no King at this point, honestly. Dimitri has fled the palace. Most hostilities have ended but with ongoing police presence, I am unable to take hold of the palace or enter it. We have appeared to have gotten to a standstill and I am willing to negotiate on the next step for us to take. The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 19:08, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
Maybe a republic is the best option for Lovia now. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 19:35, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
Maybe it is. It all depends on what Kunarian says at this point. He is the head of the Police Force of Noble City. I made him the following proposal. Depends on what he says. Then, we will vote. The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 20:03, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
Kunarian isn't the head of state, so why should his decision be that important. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 20:18, May 1, 2013 (UTC) 
Oh, our head of state? Oos agrees with me being King because when I get on that throne, he will be the Heretow of Oshenna. The Duke of Oceana, if you will. Kunarian's decision is important because he is the head of police, the only force keeping order and stability in the Capital at this point. The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 20:32, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Guys, it seems the situation has gotten even more complicated, and now involves Brunant as well. Apparently, Bernd Donia was visiting the Donia Castle at the time of the coup, and is now being held hostage by the Southern Cross Alliance along with the rest of the Donia Clan that was at the castle. 77topaz (talk) 21:25, May 2, 2013 (UTC)

It says in The Cape Times thaqtr he's in Holland for the new King's coronaton.MMunson-talk (Vote SLP) 01:18, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

He could have left already; check with TMV. 77topaz (talk) 01:30, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

Realistically not, as he had a dinner to attend on the 1st before returning to Brunant with his wife. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 12:42, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

Hey everyone, I just added the formatting to The Greatest Brunanter selection, so feel free to propose anyone for the 5 categories. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:04, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

Everbody we need to do a big celebration because it's almost the independence day in 9 july. --Granero (talk) 03:37, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, it would be nice to do something for out 586th birthday. There'll be a cocktail party at the embassy in Noble City Tuesday. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:28, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Games Edit

Maybe Brunant could participate in the Games of the Small States of Europe.--George the Greek (talk) 12:49, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

First: Brunant is not as small as those countries (except Iceland maybe). If we will participate that will be unfair because we have good teams, professional athletes and those countries don't have it. Brunant already participate the IWO Games ... Wabba The I (talk) 17:52, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

I don't want to be offensive.. Edit

... but the 2013 IWO Games are a joke - pretty much like all of IWO... I'm actually a bit disappointed :( First of all, the planning was rather disastrous from the beginning, with countries being able to sign up for sports, but as that didn't work out well, countries were - sort of - randomly grouped in certain sports. Also the time schedule was planned badly (though I'm not sure we could've done that any better). Secondly, there is no attention from other wikicountries (arguably, not even from Brunant itself) for the games, mainly because of the chaotic way things go.

I think we should learn from this experience, but I'm not sure whether these current games should continue or be cancelled. I'm pretty sure we can all agree though that the next question is to be asked: Are interwikinational relations (incl. politics etc) possibly, as we've experienced so many failures before? --OuWTBsjrief-mich 09:12, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

Well it seems like Lovia is the only country not really interested in IWO links, really. With Libertas and other smaller countries we've been able to establish links, conferences etc, but it seems like Lovia hasn't done this. I proposed an economic conference a while back, and no response (check my notepad for for the trade conference bit). As for the games, there was some interest but no drive, especially from other countries. Perhaps the size and complexity of the tournament was too much. If we continue with IWO sports I suggest we divide it up into different tournaments/events, ie. athletics, football, basketball etc. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:12, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
Well, I'm more concerned about interest in the course of the Games. After the Games started, nobody really cared for them anymore.
Your idea of splitting it up might work. And in fact, has been used before: Dârtsekroeansstried 2013. --OuWTBsjrief-mich 14:42, August 24, 2013 (UTC)W
Well, there were/are numerous problems with the Games. Granero, who'd originally been appointed as organiser for several sports, seemingly disappeared. Wabba started several events but then suddenly abandoned everything claiming no-one cared about the Games. And we (me and Horton) had not been able to agree on a method to determine the results of the individual sports. I'd be prepared to "finish" or determine the results for several of the events, but I don't think I've actually been given permission to do so. 77topaz (talk) 22:30, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
It's a shame though :( --OuWTBsjrief-mich 12:33, August 25, 2013 (UTC)

Strasland news Edit

You can use this for news artilces, the offical report of the government abvout the Tagog issue.

6 nov 2013 Regeringen fordømmer Tagog - Statsminister Peter Lyndby leverede en tale i dag kritiserer Tagogisk ordning for sine grove menneskerettighedskrænkelser mod sine borgere. Statsministeren var især kritisk over for deres forsøg på at snigmyrde demokratiforkæmpere og meddelte, at regeringen vil arbejde sammen med andre nationer til at skabe en officiel embargo / State minister Peter Lyndby delivered a speech today criticizing the Tagogisk regime for its gross human rights violations against its citizens. The minister was especially critical of their attempts to assassinate democracy activists and announced that the government will work with other nations to create an official embargo.MMunson-talk (Vote SLP) 01:37, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Brunant in other languages Edit

I had always assumed that Brunant would be the universal name for the country in other languages, but then I saw that in the history under the Spanish the islands were known as "Barzona", and the name would have stayed in use for modern Spanish and derivatives of it would be used in other romance languages.

  • French: Barzone - Barçon, Barçonne
  • Spanish: Barzona- Barceño, Barceña

I put down a couple of ones I thought would make sense, but what names would Brunant have in other languages? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 15:40, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

From the other wikinations, we can gather that the name "Brunant" would be used in Dutch, Swedish, Danish etc. 77topaz (talk) 22:52, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Barceño does make sense but also on Traspes there is Brunes but that's mroe similar to Brunant and not Barzona. Traspes (talk) 04:53, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

@ Topaz- That would be likely. I remember Lovia having some page or subpage for that. 

@ Traspes- There'd be some spelling of Brunant (and demonyms derived from it) in romance languages but they'd be more contemporary spelling. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 20:16, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

In Dutch it is "Brunanter" and "a Brunanter politician" is in Dutch "een Brunanter politicus", so the same. Wabba The I (talk) 21:15, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, would you use "oe" instead of the u for Dutch? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:58, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

And just for interest, here is what I thought the Brunant accent would be most similar to (don't pay attention to the ad, just the voice). HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 15:16, December 12, 2013 (UTC)

Arabic- Burzand

Persian- Purzand

Urdu- Purzandistan

Turkish- Purzent

Mir.a oob (talk) 20:07, January 20, 2020 (UTC)

Facebook Edit

Can you guys here please like my new Facebook page!! It's for a game! My friends and me will really appreciate this!!! Thanks!!! Please help us!!! It's Dutch but that does not matter!!! Please invite your friends to like this!!! Thanks!!!

Wabba The I (talk) 18:19, January 23, 2014 (UTC)

President? Edit

What would you guys think about getting rid of the position of president? I feel that it is not a necessary position, given that many of the duties can be performed by the PM/Monarch, and having two heads of state is not as effective. On a realistic level, paying and alloting funds for a person who has a limited political role would also be a factor. I've added a poll to get general opinions.

Do you agree with removing the post of president, for the above and/or other reasons?

The poll was created at 19:08 on March 14, 2014, and so far 8 people voted.

Any comments? Perhaps we could hold a referendum on the matter. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 19:06, March 14, 2014 (UTC)

There seems to be enough support for this, so I'll go on to the second question:

How should we determine the removal of the post?

The poll was created at 13:39 on March 15, 2014, and so far 8 people voted.

Comments are appreciated. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:39, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Removing the presidentEdit

Do you agree with removing the post of president

The poll was created at 16:17 on March 19, 2014, and so far 6 people voted.
This poll will close Friday at 11:00 PM European time. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:18, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

Hey Edit

Hey everone, I'm back!! MMunson-talk (Vote SLP) 04:17, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

Welcome back. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:51, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, welcome back. Flag of Brunant Peter Wostor (user) Flag of Brunant 14:00, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks.MMunson-talk (Vote SLP) 18:07, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

WFC 2014 squad Edit

Brunant manager Willem Bergher has released a final squad of players for WFC 2014 in Qatar. The following selected players will participate in the finals tournament barring injury.





HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 18:07, May 6, 2014 (UTC)

Aren't tournament squads usually somewhat larger, 23-30 players? 77topaz (talk) 03:59, May 7, 2014 (UTC)

Generally it's 23, for the World Cup. But we can make do with 18 and I doubt a lot of players would be injured as to cause concern. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:34, May 7, 2014 (UTC)

Okay. I have a 23-player squad for the Southern Arc Islands here. 77topaz (talk) 20:27, May 7, 2014 (UTC)

Be sure to trim it down to 18. Most wikinations have just about that number so that's the most convenient size. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:16, May 8, 2014 (UTC)

If an 18-player squad is needed, you could take the players 1-18. Nonetheless, a 23-man squad is useful to have, and I believe FIFA tournaments generally have squads of 30 players. 77topaz (talk) 04:44, May 10, 2014 (UTC)

The world cup is 23 players, but for our purposes we should only go with 18, as most wikinations can barely scrape together that amount. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:31, May 10, 2014 (UTC)

Tourism ads Edit

Visit Brunant tourism ad

Visit Brunant tourism ad


Visit Brunant cities campaign

Visit Brunant cities campaign


A couple of vids for the Visit Brunant campaign. Thanks Wabba for the inspiration. Hope you all like. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:43, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

How did you make those? Wabba The I (talk) 11:02, May 7, 2014 (UTC)

Windows movie maker. I can add music and edit the video/images on that. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:28, May 7, 2014 (UTC)

I know, I also use Movie Maker but I still don't know how to upload Youtube videos in Movie Maker :( Wabba The I (talk) 17:06, May 8, 2014 (UTC)

You'd have to save them as video files. that's what I did for the second one as well as the Emma film credits. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:22, May 8, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, my friend! Wabba The I (talk) 19:10, May 8, 2014 (UTC)

Brunanter Dutch Edit

WIKITONGUES Fugi Speaking Aranese

WIKITONGUES Fugi Speaking Aranese

Dit is een typisch Brunanter Nederlands accent (approximately). This is similar to what I envisioned the Brunanter Dutch accent. Influenced by Spanish and Barzuna and a more romance accent. Picture the guy speaking Dutch and you'll get what I see. I tried to upload something in Dutch in my best Spanish-sounding accent but the sound quality was terrible. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:50, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Hey Edit

Sorry I{ve been away, I{m on vacation in Central America and no internet. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 02:16, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

Poor Hortie Wabba The I (talk) 22:03, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

Idea Edit

I have an idea. Maybe we can do a European Union but for the wikination countries in Europe?? Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 02:48, January 10, 2015 (UTC)

That could be interesting. Who would we include? Brunant, Libertas, Traspes, Insel, Mäöres, Juliana, Kemburg, Strasland, Cettatie? And what would be the scope of the organization? Open borders? Single currency? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 14:32, January 12, 2015 (UTC)

If Libertas is participating! For us no single currency! Wabba The I (talk) 18:15, January 12, 2015 (UTC)

Aww, I was already designing a currency proposal. There was a prior proposal to reform IWO to include a currency, so my proposal could fit any. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 15:49, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I don't see the need for a European organisation. Can't we simply have a world organisation to replace the inactive IWO? Also, I agree with Wabba. No single currency. We already voted to get rid of the Euro here, but it never happened! Nick Talk 19:06, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

We could replace the IWO, but what do you propose? The European wikinations are the most active, so I kinda agree on a European-focused organization. We did vote on the Euro, but it did not pass. Nor will it be realistically easy to repalce the Euro. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 19:14, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

What are all current IWO members? Lovia, Libertas, Brunant, Traspes, Pintona, Inselöarna, Strasland? Wabba The I (talk) 20:21, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

I don't know if Pintona is a member, but the rest are alright in addition to Mäöres. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:40, January 16, 2015 (UTC)

I like that we can have a only European organization, because there are more European vs. non European. Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK

I think this is a good idea, but we should still find a way to include non-European countries. How about a reformed IWO with a core group of European countries at its centre? Frijoles333 TALK 19:17, March 27, 2015 (UTC)

1930s Edit

Looking through the history page it says there are conflicts between Maarten Dolmatoff and the leftists with the government, so I was thinking, why not simply expand that into a sort of political conflict? We can have a number of leftist groups similar to the situation in Civil War period Catalonia and have a possible military reaction. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 05:25, February 18, 2015 (UTC)

Hamlets/small communities Edit

Maybe it's time we work on these in Brunant. Lovia's developed them well and I'm sure we should do the same here. They'd definitely be all small and often rural (see Demographics of Brunant, ss. urbanization for estimates as to how many would be in them. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me

A few do exist here and there, Berganz being the well-known one, but we'd definitely have organized communities of up to several dozen to several hundred people. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 22:14, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

As to the name, I was thinking of using one deriving from the Venetian period. They would've most definitely organized administration of areas. I was thinking of perhaps using località and going wiht "locality" (Bru. Eng.) and localiteit (Bru. Ned.). Ideas? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 22:22, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

This really is a good idea. But I have questions. Is all the population that is rural in localities?? Is the figures 2015 numbers or from before?? (you updated it?). And how many localities are going to exist?? Maybe, it should be more than what's in Lovia, but you think more than 83 is here is too much??? Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 23:50, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

I did calculations, 59,275 live in the rural areas, it's 5,37%. I think, maybe 50% of all of those people live in the localities, and the others just in the farms.Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 00:44, March 27, 2015 (UTC)

The figures have been updated, so those numbers would be correct. Not all the rural population would live in localities, so 50-60% would be good, depending on the parish. And the number will also depend on the overall population. Each locality would have less than 500 people in each. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 14:34, March 27, 2015 (UTC)

Martensdorp might also be a locality? 77topaz (talk) 20:57, March 28, 2015 (UTC)

By population it definitely would, but it was awarded town rights by the King in the 1930s so it falls udner the definition of a village. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 21:42, March 28, 2015 (UTC)

Maths for the number of localitiesEdit

These are the number of people who would live in a locality in each parish. This uses 50-60% of the rural population for most. I've done with 40%-50% for Drenthe, given that rural population would be much more scattered and so less percentage formally in one. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 15:05, March 27, 2015 (UTC)

  1. Chester Parish: 2445-2934 - 2598
  2. Sint-Anders Parish: 1500-1800 - 1578
  3. Cape Cross Parish: 3200-3840 - 3417
  4. Helmond Parish: 1850-2220 - 2105
  5. Central Parish: 1945-2334 - 2009
  6. Carrington Parish: 2000-2400 - 2115
  7. Adams Parish: 1225-1470 - 1225
  8. Mariaberg Parish: 1887-2265 - 1920
  9. Sint-Willemstad Parish: 1835-2202 - 1870
  10. Drenthe Parish: 8340-10425 - 8360
  11. Brunant Parish: 485 - 485
  12. Roseland Parish: 840-1008 - 1000

Locality infobox Edit

Just addedn an infobox for our localities. The following can be used to add to the page.

{{Infobox locality

And it should work. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 14:16, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

Contest Edit

If you guys are interested, I'm having a contest for the 2015/16 St. Marks kits. I would like to see what everyone's ideas are. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 14:27, April 8, 2015 (UTC)

2000! Edit

This is my 2000th edit on Brunant! :) Or possibly this was, depending on which editcounter is correct. Or possibly I still have 22 to go (not including this one). :P 77topaz (talk) 01:59, April 13, 2015 (UTC)

King Oscar III Edit

Strasland flag

The Palace of Finskeby annunces that King Oscar III of Strasland peacefully passed away in the night at his home in Finskeby, Strasland. King Oscar was a much loved member of the royal family and he was inspiring to the people of Strasland. Princess Marianne will follow him as the Queen of Strasland.

Finskeby Palads meddeler at Kong Oscar III fredeligt døde i nat i sit hjem i Finskeby, Strasland. Kong Oscar var en meget elsket medlem af den kongelige familie, og han var inspirerende for befolkningen i Strasland. Prinsesse Marianne vil følge ham som dronningen af Strasland.MMunson-talk- SP 00:31, May 11, 2015 (UTC)

My family and I would like to extend our deepest condolences to King Oscar's family and all Straslanders on such a day. May the king's legacy be remeber by all from this day on,
Queen Helene signature

Bot Edit

Hello all, I don't edit here very frequently, but Horton has asked me if I can use my newly-created bot, User:Sembot, to sort out some categorisation problems. In order for the bot to be flagged by wikia, there needs to be some kind of community approval, so please indicate that below. :) --Semyon 20:41, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

Pro Pro There's no approval template on this wiki. :o 77topaz (talk) 20:47, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

To clarify: there wasn't one when I wrote that, but Traspes created one afterward. 77topaz (talk) 03:01, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

Pro Pro obviously! Frijoles333 TALK 21:36, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

Yes. I support completely Pro ProTraspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK

Pro Pro HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:22, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

Vote logos Edit

Because there isn't any, I put Pro, Oppose and Neutral! From Wikimedia.

So you can vote:

  • Pro Pro, because you are positive
  • Oppose Oppose

, because you don't like anything

  • Neutral Neutral

, you are completely 50/50 :)

Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 01:49, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. We'll put them to good use. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:20, June 3, 2015 (UTC)


What about an organisation that connect all leading universities in the wikinations? Strasland Universitet (Strasland), Blackburn University (Lovia), Royal University of Koningstad (Brunant) and Vrije Universiteit van Wikistad (Libertas) can be members and maybe the other wikinations have universities as well. Wabba The I (talk) 16:43, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it's a beautiful idea! In Juliana there's University of Pisona and Traspes, there is three, in the category Universidad. Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 02:05, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

I would take Universidad Nacional de Trapses. Wabba The I (talk) 14:07, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Would this be something linking public universities then? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 15:03, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Koningstad election poll. Please vote and give commentes!! Edit

There are election this year in Koningstad. What's your opinion.

Who do you support primarily in the municipal elections of Koningstad?

The poll was created at 03:05 on June 14, 2015, and so far 6 people voted.
Who do you support secondly in the municipal elections of Koningstad?

The poll was created at 03:06 on June 14, 2015, and so far 6 people voted.
Do You support the anti-austerity protests?

The poll was created at 03:06 on June 14, 2015, and so far 6 people voted.

Do you have any comments?? Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 03:06, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

SLP ((which I am going to be running as)) is strongly contra austerity. :o TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 14:32, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

An appeal to advance Edit

Avanze logo

Brunanters, now is the time to stand up and demand a better job from your politicians, not only nationally but also locally. Those from the right of course do advocate for austerity, citing Greece, Ireland and Spain. But what is more worrying is that our so-called left wing is falling for and promoting that rhetoric.

Brunant is fine, they say. The economy is not receding as expected. Jobs are not at risk anymore. Then why is the retirement age being raised? Why are taxes increasing? Why are there talks of tightening the belt? Why are municipal governments, left and right, not spending what they need to help average citizens as well as those most in need of it?

If Brunant were fine, politicians would not take steps as if the country was headed down a cliff of economic issues. The only explanation here would be they secretly do know that the country is in a downward spiral, and in this case have no-one but themselves to blame for mismanagement.

The Social Democrats, Green Party and even the Socialist Left Party have moved from actually caring about voters and citizens to only caring about votes. Elections are coming up in the next months, so this is an appeal to vote against the same vote-seeking parties and to back local and alternative parties. The social security of Brunanters depends on standing up to the status quo and making it known you will not have your futures depleted at the hands of politicians.

Richard Bomgaars 22:24, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

I commend the Brunanter people for not leaving politics to the politicians, but standing up to the establishment and letting their voices be heard. What we need in these times is true democracy - for the citizens to find an alternative vision for their country, to rally round it, and to tell those in government "no more." I feel sure that those on the streets now, fighting for justice, are far closer to that vision than any political party, no matter how 'progressive' or ideologically correct. --Anna Maria Whithdonck-Malsky 22:38, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

The Socialist Left Party completely supports the anti-austerity, and we are hurt to hear that some do not trust us on that matter. If elected, we will stop austerity, and seek to make government work for the people again, not the other way around. We will always support the people's social security and right to have a good living. Vote SLP! TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 02:34, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Avanze thanks SLP and Ms. Whithdonck-Malsky for their support, and invites them to come out to spek and participate in the protests. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 19:04, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Esquedra Republicana na Barzona completely supports the actions of Avanze, and SLP and Anna Maria. The corruption in Brezonde, the terrible mayor of Niesburg and in other plances can not remain. Change needs to come for the people of Brunant. Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 01:02, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

Cape Times polling Edit

23 June:

Which party would you support in the upcoming municipal elections?
Green Party: 2
Social Democratic Party: 1
Socialist Left Party: 1
Christian Democratic Union: 1
Free Liberal Party: 0
Minor right: 0
Minor left: 0

Which other party would you support?
Green Party: 0
Social Democratic Party: 2
Socialist Left Party: 0
Christian Democratic Union: 0
Free Liberal Party: 0
Minor right: 0
Minor left: 2

Comments? Thoughts? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 20:35, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

Pre-election question Edit

We call for the Social Democratic Party and the Green Party to pass an EU referendum as soon as possible. Do you refuse to let the people decide? We expect both political parties to respond. - Euroskeptic movement based in Koningstad

Green Party: We are prepared to support a European Union referendum to determine whether the people want to leave.
Social Democratic Party

Just some quick pre-election stuff. ] Happy65 Talk Contributions 16:09, June 23, 2015 (UTC)

We would like to see how the situation unfolds in Great Britain and Greece regarding their association with and membership in the European Union. We could certainly be open to one in the future, but we would like to see how similar proposals and ideas progress elsewhere, as leaving the EU, even just the Euro, is and will never be easy. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:22, June 23, 2015 (UTC)

We have realised that the Social Democratic Party are untrustworthy. This is a classic case of avoiding the question. We demand a referendum now. The people can decide through a referendum. A referendum must be held. Unless... you are against democracy? - Euroskeptic movement based in Koningstad ] Happy65 Talk Contributions 16:27, June 23, 2015 (UTC)

Juliana in the IWO Edit

Ok people, we gotta vote to see if we include Juliana in the IWO. A simple vote should do, as it's summer and our politicians are probably on holiday :P HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 18:10, June 26, 2015 (UTC)



  • ...


It's a little inactive to be honest, so I'm neutral. We should definitely vote by seats though. ] Happy65 Talk Contributions 18:13, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

No, we shouldn't vote by seats, cuz OOC elections transferring to IC results would be takaviki in this nation. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 02:39, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

Elections Edit

Elections are open in Martensdorp. There are a variety of parties running, so be sure to give each one a look. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 20:06, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

Poll for the elections! Edit

An Avangarda poll. Please also comment. Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 23:52, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Who do you support primarily in the municipal elections?

The poll was created at 23:51 on September 20, 2015, and so far 6 people voted.
Who is your second choice in the municipal elections?

The poll was created at 23:51 on September 20, 2015, and so far 7 people voted.

Vote SLP Edit


Vote for Socialist Left Party! It's a choice that willbenefit all of Brunant. SLP will give more taxes to the ricvh and support the people that need it the most! Remember, that a vote for SLP is a vote for you.MMunson-talk- SP 01:30, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

VOTE SDP IN BREZONDE! Nissel will be a great leader! UnfazedEveryman Annoy Me 02:38, September 26, 2015 (UTC)
SDP is centrist, not a real choce for the people.MMunson-talk- SP 02:45, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

A poll for De Waarheid Edit

Please vot in the poll for De Waarheid newspaper! Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 00:24, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

What party do you support first in the municipal elections?

Green Party 1

Social Democratic Party 1

Socialist Left Party 0

Christian Democratic Union 1

Free Liberal Party 1

Minor right wing 0

Minor left wing 1

Avanze 0

What party is your second choice in the municipal elections?

Green Party 0

Social Democratic Party 1

Socialist Left Party 0

Christian Democratic Union 1

Free Liberal Party 0

Minor right wing 1

Minor left wing 0

Avanze 2 </poll>

De Waarheid strikes me as a weird choice to host the poll, considering how politically biased (right-leaning) the newspaper is. :P 77topaz (talk) 02:15, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

That is true. FictiveJ (talk) 05:49, October 2, 2015 (UTC)
Well I did clean up the paper and made it less biased though still right-wing. And of course, each paper (anywhere) will probably have their bias for polling. And we are seeing some votes for the right wing now, even though they don't have candidates (yet?) HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 12:54, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Debate Edit

I suggest we have a debate, at least for Koningstad. IC it'd be televised on BBN, but ooc we'd go with moderator questions posted and people answering when they can, cause it'll be impossible to arrange a chat debate. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:08, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Yes that's a good idea. But do it quickely, because we already started the elections. Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 00:58, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Vote for the ERB Edit

Brunant is at a crossroad. A wrong turn can cause many difficulties for working families, immigrants, elderly, youth. A vote for ERB is not always easy, but a vote for your future is. Vote for the Esquedra Republicana na Barzona party. Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 02:33, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Patriam Edit

Alright people, we have to vote on Patriam being in the IWO. Thoughts, Ideas? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:17, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

At the moment, I Oppose Oppose . More than two-thirds (149/215) of the pages on the wiki are underneath Wikia's standard stub cutoff of 300 bytes, and there are a lot of uncategorised pages. :P 77topaz (talk) 19:28, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, those go with being a new wiki. But at the same time, why is there a need for fifth-levle league pages and emplty templates for monthly song charts? Of course I must've done some of that in Brunant's early days, but the focus was (and should bt) the nation's infrastructure. I might just have to agree with you. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 19:47, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Of course am I Pro Pro, but I think it's true what you two say. I'm going to work on the core fact, categorize pages and expand short pages Niels20020 (Talk) 13:29, October 15, 2015 (UTC)
It's not easy when you have lots of ideas already, but you should take things one step at a time. Brunant was a mess early on, but then I moved to working on the basics like government, history, monarchs. The credit cards, medieval walls and Second League top scorers didn't come until much later :P HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:40, October 15, 2015 (UTC)
Pro Pro Discovered this recently, and it looks like a good, developing wikination. As a result, I'm in support of this. ] Happy65 Talk Contributions 15:06, October 21, 2015 (UTC)

Phaluhm (IWO)Edit

1) ASEAN and ACD - Joining the IWO will allow your buisness and economy grow in to South East Asian countries and other Asian Countries between the ACD.
2) Pacific Trade - Joining the IWO will improve your Asia-Pacific Trade as we are a great trade route from Asia-Pacific to the Americas.
3) Resources - We have a vast supply of oil, gold and copper. We also plant bananas, pineapples and mangos, and we ship them off to other countries.
4) Relations with other Asian countries - Since we are a member of APEC, ASEAN and ACD, your country can benifit on making trade deals, starting new companies etc.
5) Economy - We are one of the richest countries, due to oil, gold and other sucessful companies like Air Phaluhm, PTV and the Kaliybatan Corporation, which owns buisnesses such as Pham-Su. FlyPhoueck, Themn, Tempest and Liberalty Bank.
Hows this? Lancededcena (talk) 21:34, October 14, 2015 (UTC)
Stub situation's better than in Patriam, but still not optimal (108/257) and there are a fair amount of uncategorised pages, so overall I'm Neutral Neutral

. 77topaz (talk) 21:38, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

I'm Pro Pro Niels20020 (Talk) 13:29, October 15, 2015 (UTC)
It does seem to be better developed and does have an active community. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:12, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Vote ERB and vote for you!/Vota ERB e vota par tu! Edit

Juana Martins
Si queres en bun futur e ena vida estable, vota ERB. Votar ERB e votar par tu e tu futur! Vota par Barzona e Juana Martins. If you want a good future and a stable live, vote for ERB. ERB is voting for you and your future. Vote for Brezonde and Juana Martins.

Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 01:15, October 20, 2015 (UTC)

Payara concept Edit

Payara teaser

Sleek and sensual, cool and classic. The ultimate combination of past and present in a roadster. Coming soon, from Atenis. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me

That car looks fantastic. Naranja! Or whatever the Brunanter equivalent is! {{SUBST:Lovian Future}} FictiveJ (discuss) 21:31, October 24, 2015 (UTC)

Phaluhm wants to knowEdit

What is your opinon on:

  • Iran-Phaluhm proxy war
  • Phaluhm Muslim Crisis
  • China-Phaluhm war
  • Phaluhm Phoueck
  • Muslim Party corruption issue

Thanks, Yenah Kaliybatan. Lancededcena (talk) 11:41, October 24, 2015 (UTC)

I am not fully aware of all that is going on in Phaluhm, but I do know that the people there deserve a right to stability and normality, as in all countries, and that Brunant can do something to help. Gert Henneman: Email iconFollow me 14:50, October 24, 2015 (UTC)
The government of Traspes can support Phaluhm Phouek against Muslim terrorists if it is a democractic country and want to have peace and human rights for everbody in the country. Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK

Northcity IWO Champions CupEdit

Dear people of Brunant,

Maybe it's a bit early, but you have to select your players for the first Northcity IWO Champions Cup in 2016. You can select one man player, one woman player, one men double and one women double. I would like to see some players in Northcity next year.

Greetings Richard Greenwich, president of the Patriam Tennis organisation
Niels20020 (Talk) 16:28, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you to all Edit

Thank you to all who voted SDP in Koningstad. Our party may not have gotten the majority of votes, but they were enough to receive the support of the Green Party to take the mayorship.

Together with the Green Party, we will continue the good work done by former mayor Karimi, and ensure our city will keep on improving.

Karen House 16:08, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Special and typical word Edit

Lovia has the word naranja, but maybe we should have a word or an expression that is typical in Brunant. Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 03:36, November 5, 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure if real-life countries really have those (though Burenia has one as well - takavíhki), so I don't know if it's particularly realistic or worthwhile. 77topaz (talk) 04:24, November 5, 2015 (UTC)

What about a phrase, like idioms?? Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 04:45, November 5, 2015 (UTC)

Nogado! :P {{SUBST:Lovian Future}} Mezatir FictiveJ (discuss) 05:19, November 5, 2015 (UTC)
Don't know if we should go with food (as Lovia already does), but according to the interwebses, gazpacho is a slang word in Spain. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 06:16, November 5, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe, sleep like a corpse, for somebody that isn't woken up esily. Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 05:27, November 5, 2015 (UTC)

That could work. I have a few slang word ideas. Maybe the simplest one is crack (ex. that's crack, how crack) for cool/how cool. The etimology would stem from the use of crack in crack pilot or shot to evolve into cool. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 06:16, November 5, 2015 (UTC)
Good. 'Nogado' was a joke, BTW. {{SUBST:Lovian Future}} Mezatir FictiveJ (discuss) 07:03, November 5, 2015 (UTC)
Maybe, beltime. It's a word that I createrd that the definition is, a short but very beautiful moment. Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK

Idea Edit

Do you want to create pages for the years in Brunant?? Like Lovia has it. Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 04:25, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

We had this discussion and it's likely to turn into a mess unless we have really dedicated users working on it. I wouldn't be opposed to that but would seriously suggest using a layout similar to Lovia and not including world events. We should start from 2015 and work backwards, and perhaps start work on a few key years, such as 1427 and 1663. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 15:27, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
I can put the page links for the years. Maybe, you can see if the people wantto create the years in a century, a decade, to divided the work. Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK
Well that sounds like a good plan, but we'd need more people to help out on this. I'd propose something like this:
  • 21st century
  • 1950-1999
  • 1900-1949 working up
  • 18th-19th century
  • 1200-1699
  • 1200 and older

And a user works on one of these. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 14:52, November 12, 2015 (UTC)

Idea Edit

I have an idea for a Christmas movie/documentary, that focuses on the Christmas customs in Brunant. Would this be a good idea? Valandre (SDP) FictiveJ (discuss) 22:20, November 9, 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 00:48, November 10, 2015 (UTC)

I was thinking, it would centre around some Brunanter family which stays true to the Christmas customs. It would involve traditions like the nogado, buniol and a pesber. Valandre (SDP) FictiveJ (discuss) 02:28, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
It's a good plan. Maybe, you can do a Christmas with the Sarria Family. Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK
Yes, maybe. It would be a good plan. Valandre (SDP) FictiveJ (discuss) 04:58, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
But, nogado nougat, buniol oliebollen and pesber nativity scenes aren't exactly unique to Brunant, though. :P 77topaz (talk) 09:45, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
No, but they are parts of Brunanter culture. :P Valandre (SDP) FictiveJ (discuss) 10:10, November 10, 2015 (UTC)

Berrio Edit

I think we should decide on Brunant's tiny colony of Berrio. I made it just as a sort of side project, but I think that it could be something nice to have. Berrio is small, not very populous and won't make us big colonizers or anything like that. Do you guys have thoughts? Ideas/criticism? Flag proposals? If you guys support it, we can go through with improving and integrating Berrio in the wiki. There will be no need for a separate wiki, because it will surely end up inactive, and Berrio won't be big enough to merit its own site. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:56, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

I suppose we could continue to work on it, though I think the population should be at least doubled. ] Happy65 Talk Contributions 22:12, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

It could be expanded; Ascension is just bigger than Berrio and has 800 people. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 22:24, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

I made a flag. Valandre (SDP) FictiveJ (discuss) 23:25, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
I support to make it official, but more people. Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK 04:53, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

Hit Parade wiki Edit

I created one, it's here. Ideally we should have all lists THERE instead of on their own wikis. Valandre (SDP) FictiveJ (discuss) 23:54, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

But the wiki will not be active, and already all the pages are in Brunant. Traspes - Dianna Bartol LOGO POSITIVE BLOCK

Indeed. 77topaz (talk) 20:49, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

Free Phaluhm (Phaluhm Protests)Edit

NO MORE CHINESE OCCUPATION. Respect our sovereignty.

Since 1900, the Chinese government has been hoarding Vietnam and Phaluhm islands. This caused wars between China, Vietnam and Phaluhm. In 1951, we have been invaded by China, this shows the lack of respect of our soverignty. Oil wells from the Chinese are even been built in our territory! PHALUHM ARCHIPELAGO IS OURS! NO MORE. FREE PHALUHM. Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 15:58, December 10, 2015 (UTC)

I understand and feel for the plight of Phaluhm people. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:15, December 10, 2015 (UTC)

Sultan and Rajah visitEdit

The Sultan Yenah Kaliybatan and Rajah (his wife Karima Kaliybatan) would like to visit Brunant and its monarchy. Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 12:06, December 24, 2015 (UTC)

That could be nice. I'm sure something with the Queen and Prince can be arranged, like a lunch or something. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:09, December 24, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, the event could be arranged from the 27th December to 3rd January (Mawlid) Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 16:48, December 24, 2015 (UTC)

Sure, sounds good. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:13, December 24, 2015 (UTC)

OK, just notify the Phaluhm or Patriam embassy if you are ready. Is this event going to be Brunant news? Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 17:20, December 24, 2015 (UTC)

Why would he notify the Patriam embassy about this? :P 77topaz (talk) 20:51, December 25, 2015 (UTC)

The Kaliybatan family is legally Patriam since 1979, as they are still living in exileLancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 20:57, December 25, 2015 (UTC)

In that case, it wouldn't be particularly useful to contact the Phaluhm embassy. 77topaz (talk) 21:08, December 26, 2015 (UTC)
He is departing from Phaluhm, and arriving at Phaluhm when he is finished. Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 22:15, December 26, 2015 (UTC)

This wouldn't be a state visit though, but due to the Sultan's status he'd probably be afforded such treatment. That would mean you'd need to go through the Department of External Affairs to formally arrange it. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:24, December 26, 2015 (UTC)

The Sultan and Rajah is now departing Phaluhm Airport by Air Phaluhm and will be arriving at Koningstad tommorow at 12PM with a refueling in Dubai. Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 17:19, December 28, 2015 (UTC)

Alright, great. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:56, December 28, 2015 (UTC)

The pair is now at Koningstad and is now planning to do news interviews in 3:30. Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 15:26, December 29, 2015 (UTC)

K. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 18:40, December 29, 2015 (UTC)

Phaluhm Military Edit


The Phaluhm Military is to double their military spending from January 4th 2016 to combat terrorist groups and the agression of the Chinese. We are also sending more foregin soldiers to combat terrorism such as San Sabyleo speratists, Neo-Hamals and Muslim insurgents. We currently recuriting people to join the army with a new campaign. Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 17:56, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

Those look good. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 18:20, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

"These guys want us dead, unless if you join" is rather clumsy grammar. Perhaps you could say "They will kill us, unless you join"? 77topaz (talk) 20:57, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Edit

Here's to a joyous and prosperous new year to come for all. May 2016 bring all your wishes to fruition.

Queen Helene signaturePrince Bernd signatureMarianneCristian

Happy New Year and many new ideas and inspiration for Brunant's creative expansion. Wabba The I (talk) 13:34, January 1, 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year! :) 77topaz (talk) 20:43, January 2, 2016 (UTC)

Harud (Harund) new wikinationEdit

I've made a new wikination! Harud, a middle eastern island nation in the Persian Gulf. Here is some spoilers.

Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 19:34, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

You should provide a link, and add it on the wikinations list. 77topaz (talk) 20:38, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

Here you goLancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 20:44, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

Looks good. Would you continue with Phaluhm though? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 13:39, January 15, 2016 (UTC)

Yes, of course :P Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 15:57, January 15, 2016 (UTC)

We could use some help on Harud tho :( Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 23:19, February 16, 2016 (UTC)

You got some help from me. :) 77topaz (talk) 02:24, February 19, 2016 (UTC)


Rheyen Atiloko is a overseas Phaluhm worker currently on death row in Indonesia for drug smugling. She was duped on carrying a suitcase carying 2.5 kilograms of herorin in the suitcase. She was arrested in Bali and was put into death row in December 2013. Royna Nehgyen has opposed of these executions, calling it inhumane and request clemancy, but has been denied. If Indonesia goes ahead with the executions, diplomatic ties will sour and all Phaluhm overseas workers might be asked to return.

We must stand as citizens, Phaluhm people, as we must say NO to these executions. We are petitioning from all people to say NO to these executions.

Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 16:37, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

I completely agree. Valandre (SDP) FictiveJ (discuss) 21:52, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
Is there proof that she was innocent, though? 77topaz (talk) 19:42, February 4, 2016 (UTC)
She met a recuritment agency in Wikas, they forwarded a individial called Ramos Malgansay who was a mentor for her. He told him that he knew a person in Bali, Indonesia in the construction industry. She told him that she was interested. In November 28th 2013, he gave her flight tickets and $500 USD. In December she arrived in Phaluhm Airport, and she passed the baggage into the luggage area. The luggage handler for the plane unlocked the luggage and snuck in 2.5 kilograms of heroin, due to outrage of strict job cutbacks. 
When she landed in Bali, she was told that there was something suspisous on her luggage. She was interviewed by two investigators. She agreed to look at her luggage and when they opened and when they took out items of clothing, they found a black plastic bag and inside was heroin. She did not respond and was dragged out from the airport to the womans prision.
During the ASEAN summit, Royna Nehgyen asked for clemancy but it was denied. The 2015 APEC summit was described as the last chance to save Rhyen Atiloko. Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 19:58, February 4, 2016 (UTC)
Okay, but what evidence is there that it was the luggage handler who snuck in the heroin and not Atiloko? If there is evidence, someone (a lawyer, perhaps, or a diplomatic emissary) should present that evidence to the Indonesian court. 77topaz (talk) 20:41, February 5, 2016 (UTC)
There isn't enough evidence but she is recieving help from the Consulate General in Bali and the Embassy in Jakarta. The Indonesian government is ignoring all of the requests for clemancy and retrials. Her lawyer in Phaluhm Phoueck is also actively supporting her. Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 20:56, February 5, 2016 (UTC)
Well, I suppose if there isn't enough evidence the Indonesian courts may not be convinced she is innocent. But her lawyer or other Phaluhm Phoueck officials should try and find as much evidence as possible, to prove that she is in fact innocent. 77topaz (talk) 21:28, February 9, 2016 (UTC)
In such cases it is very hard to get something done. Now, if said person were British or American there'd be much more to be done. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 15:42, February 13, 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, because Phaluhm Phoueck doesn't have as much power on the international stage as those countries. 77topaz (talk) 21:45, February 15, 2016 (UTC)

Harudi Democratic SystemEdit

The Harudi Democratic System is both repersentative and direct. Is there any flaws in this plan? Could Brunant and other nations implement this plan? Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 20:12, March 21, 2016 (UTC)

IWO Central News AgencyEdit

We will need new editors for the ICNA! The ICNA allows the latest news from all wikinations around the world to be centralised and viewed as one. The ICNA features reactions, daily polls, YouTube clips (proposed), twitter feed (proposed) and even current weather (proposed) and breaking news. The ICNA will require some work though and will need to be developed in order to provide latest news, sports and info from around the worlds wikinations. ICNA

You will need to provide an email address in order to register as an editor\admin Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 19:23, May 23, 2016 (UTC)

IWO exit pollEdit

Should Brunant leave the IWO?

The poll was created at 23:39 on June 28, 2016, and so far 6 people voted.
NO!!! Niels20020 (talk) 15:36, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

It's obviously a reference to Brexit, but because the IWO is on such a smaller scale than the EU, I don't expect there would be a significant exit push within Brunant. 77topaz (talk) 10:56, June 30, 2016 (UTC)

It is. No, the exit push is just at its infancy, but its something we can definitely include into Brunant's history. I personally am on the pro side, but I have had issues with the lack of anything achieved from the IWO and the lack of significant betterment of links between the wikinations, which definitely could add/lead to the start of a leave campaign, or at the least arguments for leave. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 21:26, July 6, 2016 (UTC)

I just came to the realisation that we are a member of both the European Union and the International Wiki Organisation. This could prove somewhat problematic, as the EU has supremacy over our laws and the IWO's laws would be overruled by those in the EU. The International Wiki Organisation is very beneficial, and encourages co-operation between similar sized nations. It does not have a group of 28 members serving as the Commission, the only people who have the power to propose legislation, though encourages a fair and democratic IWO Parliament which as the nation with the most seats allows us to spread our influence throughout the organisation. Instead of ridiculous regulations restricting our agricultural and fishing industries, it has an array of great iniatives including the Historic Towns Association and was the trendsetter for an airport alliance between wikinations, the Eagle Alliance which has since become the much-improved Flite Group, headquartered here in Brunant. The IWO could strengthen us but the EU is limiting us. We need to consider triggering Article 50 NOW. It's one or the other. EU OUT, IWO IN. Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 15:01, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Hey Edit


So, it seems I haven't edited Brunant since 2015. I thought I'd check back in and was somewhat surprised to find that the activity has died down. I'm contemplating returning to activity, though am wondering if you planned to revive the wiki?

] Happy65 Talk Contributions 20:08, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

Well obviously all wikis are down in activity. But I do have some ideas/plans for Brunant, so if you were to return please do. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 21:05, July 6, 2016 (UTC)

SDP leadership poll Edit

Who should be the next leader of the SDP?

The poll was created at 20:17 on July 14, 2016, and so far 6 people voted.

Rebuilding HarudEdit

Would you like any Brunater or IWO companies to invest and help rebuild Harudi's infrastructure and economy after suffering from a civil war in 2011. Our railway desperately needs more investment but companies can invest in infrastrucutre in return for government bonds. Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 20:31, July 22, 2016 (UTC)

Brunanters at the olympics Edit

Who and how many did we send? I think somewhere around 15 makes sense. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 17:48, August 7, 2016 (UTC)

I think that about 25 could also fit. A list of people that probably could go to the Olympics:

Niels20020 (talk) 18:11, August 7, 2016 (UTC)

Well maybe 15 to 20. I think it would be mostly individual sport athletes. We will definitively need pages for others. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 06:00, August 8, 2016 (UTC)

Libertas also participates, as the IWO Games were terrible unsuccessful. Wabba The I (talk) 08:33, August 8, 2016 (UTC)

Any new logos?Edit

Any logos\images do you want me to create?

Lancededcena Flag of Phaluhm Phoueck Flag of Ostrobia 14:27, August 26, 2016 (UTC)

IWO Council elections Edit

Alright people, it's time to start working towards the IWO Council elections. I think a common forum for the elections in Lovia might just be the easiest/more organized idea, but elections here could work as well. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 14:44, September 5, 2016 (UTC)

Municipal and government elections?Edit

Considering Lovia will hold elections and is refreshing the political sphere, you think we should do the same here. We don't have nearly the same user base as to hold user elections, but thoughts on perhaps roleplaying one with the ones who are? I see that as Topaz, Happy, Wabba and me, and hopefully more interested users. This would help create a more realistic composition as opposed to some of the ones in 2015 where there were no rightist candidates.

We have 7 elections from 2016 to do, and five are to be held this year. Plus, 2017 is government election year. Still, if we have enough users wanting an in-character election we can still do one. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 21:22, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

Copying the bit from my talk page: "With so few active users, it's probably difficult to hold elections. What would your plan be - to use the same methods as we used for the previous municipal and government elections or different ones?"

However, now that I see your more elaborate post here, I think with "roleplaying" you mean you want to have the elections be entirely in-character? 77topaz (talk) 21:37, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

Brunant votes 2017 Edit

Any other thoughs. It's time I think we start working on it. One idea I had just this morning was to perhaps place polls in several alrger wikis and then see how a variety of wikia users would vote, too see in what direction we could head. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 15:10, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Election poll Edit

Here's what I have for the for our possible election poll. I organized parties in terms of size. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 22:05, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

Which party do you support in the election

The poll was created at 22:05 on March 13, 2017, and so far 3 people voted.
Which party is your second choice in the election

The poll was created at 22:05 on March 13, 2017, and so far 3 people voted.

Netherlands election Edit

I went on this website that asked me opinions on stuff like illegal immigration, retirement at 65, leaving the EU, expanding Schiphol etc and apparently I should be voting for Niet Stemmers and 50PLUS if I was Dutch haha. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 20:13, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Dutch political parties

Election polling Edit

Made a graph for dates December-yesterday. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 19:04, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

2017 general election poll

I assume ECO17 would also be included in subsequent polls/graphs? 77topaz (talk) 19:23, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Cape Times Poll Edit

Which party do you most support in the election
Social Democratic Party (Social democracy) 1
Christian Democratic Union (Christian democracy) 1
Green Party (Green)
Socialist Left Party (Socialism) 1
ECO 17 (Eco/Animal welfare) 1
Free Liberal Party (liberalism)
Yes to the Future (Alt-left/republican) 1
P70-Links (Marxist)
A Better Brunant (Centrist)
Social Anarchy Party (Anarchist) 1
Brunanter People's Party (National conservatism)
Brunant Conservatives (Nationalist)

Which party is your second choice in the election
Social Democratic Party (Social democracy) 1
Christian Democratic Union (Christian democracy)
Green Party (Green)
Socialist Left Party (Socialism) 1
ECO 17 (Eco/Animal welfare) 1
Free Liberal Party (liberalism) 1
Yes to the Future (Alt-left/republican)
P70-Links (Marxist) 1
A Better Brunant (Centrist)
Social Anarchy Party (Anarchist)
Brunanter People's Party (National conservatism)
Brunant Conservatives (Nationalist) 1

Koningstad region Edit

What do you guys think of making Koniningstad region a parish? HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 16:45, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Royal baby? Edit

What do you guys think about a third royal baby? I like the two kids, cause its more manageable, and that seems to be a trend with Their Majesties in Spain and the Cambridges, but I kinda also liek the idea of a third baby. Thoughts anyone? horton11 15:19, April 17, 2017 (UTC)

Another boy? {{subst:nosubst|User:MyOwnBadSelf/sig}} 04:42, April 19, 2017 (UTC)

New Koningstad neighborhoods Edit

We have User:Horton11/Vigana which could be promoted, and I'm working on a bohemian/hipster neighborhood as well. But any ideas for new ones you guys have? Noble City, with 60.000 inh. has 15 neighborhoods, Wikistad has 16, Alcacer has 11, and we have 9 (10 with Dortmund). Any thoughts. horton11 18:16, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, we could add more neighbourhoods to Koningstad. I think Grijzestad needs them more urgently, though - it has 111,500 inhabitants and only three neighbourhoods! :o 77topaz (talk) 21:11, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

It has 4, though Balcort is slightly more suburban but true. If you have ideas for Grijzestad feel free to work on them too. horton11 21:20, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

I made this. MyOwnBadSelf (talk) 04:23, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

600 Years of Brunant Edit

I think 2017 is a good place to start with the planning for Brunant's 600th birthday in 2027. Its definitely too early for most of the details but perhaps a logo? Which one would you guys suggest. horton11 12:37, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

I would go with logo 2. Btw, correct Dutch translation is "600 jaar Brunant", not "600 jaar van Brunant" ;) Niels20020 (talk) 15:08, July 3, 2017 (UTC)
Ah, well I'll definitely fix it then. If you have other design ideas as well please suggest. horton11 16:46, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

Absence Edit

Sorry for the long absence, had lots of schoolwork, papers, reaearch and did not have the enrgy to come on the wiki :( (sad i know) but it is the holy week in Spain nowe, and days off. I am going to Scotland (and London) but will be more active. horton11 12:11, March 26, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah of course. horton11 19:01, March 27, 2018 (UTC)

Archive Edit

Do we need one? horton11 12:22, March 26, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I think it's time. But leave all the messages from 2018 onwards here (for a later second archive maybe). Wabba The I (talk) 17:29, March 27, 2018 (UTC)

Third child for the queen Edit

What are your thoughts on this? I took a poll elsewhere and got 4-0 in favor of a third child. horton11 16:31, April 27, 2018 (UTC)

Moving the wiki(s) Edit

Lovia is considering the move to miraheze, and what seemed interesting to me, Oos proposed a single wiki for the several projects. Despite my misgivings about monobook being victorian and antiquated, most wiki people do use it, and Wikia does seem like they're putting the final nail in the coffins for non-fandom wikis. horton11 14:30, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

For anyone not aware, this is the projected site atm for our wikis here. Things are being changed, and Semyon is working on a port that includes all images as well. horton11 17:13, June 12, 2018 (UTC)
Sounds good to me! Davina Henneman (talk) 18:41, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
Yeah. GOtta see what our status is but that seems to be the consensus. horton11 13:05, June 18, 2018 (UTC)

New neighborhoods Edit

Has been discussed in the past, and now with Vigana, should we add more? Cities like Grijzestad and even Carrington could use another. Grijzestad as Brunant's second city could have two more even. horton11 18:58, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, Cape Cross as well. Wabba The I (talk) 19:52, December 19, 2018 (UTC)
Cape Cross has two, but a few other cities could use more. horton11 20:05, December 19, 2018 (UTC)
There is the St. Genis area in west Caroline Park. horton11 16:30, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

1st poll for 2019 Edit

ALright, first poll for the election. horton11 15:53, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Which party do you support in the 4 February election

The poll was created at 15:53 on January 3, 2019, and so far 3 people voted.
Which party is your second choice in the upcoming election

The poll was created at 15:53 on January 3, 2019, and so far 3 people voted.

Other poll page Edit

I added our poll here [2]. Maybe we can get a few more responses to vote in it. horton11 21:18, January 12, 2019 (UTC)

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